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years. The Kittatinny which I planted two years ago bore a very light 

 crop last year. 



Have any of you known the Ancient Briton ? I have two plants 

 which friend Stickney sent me from Wisconsin, and last year they suc- 

 ceeded in getting above the ground about four feet, and produced two or 

 three quarts to a plant. They are perfectly hardy, and the best pro- 

 ducers I have ever had on my place. The berry is not quite as large as 

 the Kittatinny; the cane is green and remains green. 



Mr. Foster — There is a variety in Iowa of some reputation, called 

 the Bernard. I know the man who brought it from Ohio some years ago. 

 When he first found it he was going to see his sweetheart, and some fine 

 blackberries, that, attracting his attention, he marked the spot, and ulti- 

 mately got some plants from there. It is a very good fruit for northern 

 latitudes. 



Mr. Nelson — I have had the Lawton blackberry for several years. 

 I have a plant or two of the Ancient Briton, which I got from Mr. Doug- 

 las, some two or three years since, but they do not seem to bear. The 

 Kittatinny has done well with me the past season, and I am sure if it 

 were killed down to the ground every five years it would pay well. 



Mr. Scofield — Can you get any berries without taking the suckers 

 off? 



Mr. Nelson — The suckers I sell for plants. 



Mr. Daggy — I reported rather favorably upon the Kittatinny some 

 few years ago ; but I had not then as much experience as I have had since. 

 Whilst I think it hardier than the Lawton, I do not consider it a success. 

 I think the drought has had something to do with it. I have tried also 

 Wilson's and Needham's Newton White, and I would say, if you have not 

 them, never get them ; you had better have the Canada thistle. The 

 Kittatinny is nearly as bad in the line of sprouts ; but if the sprouts could 

 be sold for plants, as Mr. Nelson does, they might be profitable. 



Mr. Montgomery — I think it is a decided success. I agree with Mr. 

 Nelson, and would not be inclined to give it away. I have not many 

 plants to sell ; but I think there is no fruit that has yielded as much clear 

 money in our neighborhood as the Kittatinny blackberry has in Mat- 

 toon. The berries are good — we think better than the Lawton. 



Mr. Daggy — I might be misunderstood. I prefer the Kittatinny to 

 any other, but yet it does not fill the bill as a reliable blackberry. 



Mr. Wier — I have had it in fruit. I think I had the first that came 

 into til is State, and this has been my first failure of a full crop. If it failed 



