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nothing; still, I could not make that labor very profitable. I 

 could do some operations rapidly and very successfully ; but if 

 the control of twenty boys in the field does not occupy much of 

 the time of the superintendent and render his labors not very 

 effective, I am quite mistaken. He must work pretty hard to 

 make that labor useful and you must grant him much forbearance 

 in respect to money results. 



I would say, with regard to the relative merits of the two kinds 

 education, that the object of the ordinary collegiate course has 

 been to make men of thought and of language. That is accom- 

 plished by classical and mathematical studies. The business of 

 life d«velopes and makes men of action. The idea of these new 

 colleges is to unite the two, and make them men of thought and 

 men of action. I lay that down as the object you have in view, — 

 to work out that problem which the present age is urging upon 

 us — How best to produce men of thought and of action ? 



Prof. Fernald. I hope the idea which President Allen ad- 

 vanced will be fully understood, that when the boys work at 

 levelling or any other work that appertains especially to their own 

 instruction, they receive no pay. Our line of division is this : 

 when a boy works for the institution, pay him ; when he works 

 solely for his own advantage let him be paid in the advantage 

 which he derives. 



Mr. Pierce. Our Farmers' Clubs discuss the college, and in 

 many places they discuss it in ignorance. I would suggest that 

 the sentiments expressed by President Allen and by the Secretary 

 of this Board be published in pamphlet form, and circulated among 

 our Farmers' Clubs. If they could be read by the members of 

 our. Clubs, they would do away with a great deal of prejudice that 

 now exists. 



Adjourned to 1 o'clock. 



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