454 BOARD OF AGEICULTUKE. 



Mr. Johnson: Well, yes. We have got to keep pace with our success- 

 ful butter-makers, and that is the only way I see for we butter-makers 

 to keep up. Without we exhibit, we can't be good judges of butter. We 

 must be good judges of butter before we are good makers. 



The President: Mr. Schlosser, you have exhibited butter more or less 

 from your creamery. Does it pay you to exhibit? 



Mr. Schlosser: It certainly does. The only way a person knows what 

 he is doing is to rub up against other butter-makers, and find out his 

 faults; that is the best place to find out where we are lacking, and by 

 trying to improve on these things. Butter exhibits are certainly a good 

 thing for the butter trade, and with possibly one exception, as I said 

 awhile ago, we lay too much stress upon the high flavor. If we could cor- 

 rect that fault, it is going to be more benefit to the dairy interests. We 

 want to manufacture butter that will reach the consumer In good shape. 



The President: Who else is there in the room tJiat has exhibited butter 

 besides Mr. Johnson and Mr. Schlosser? 



The Secretary: Mr. Drischel can speak for the cheese industry. 



Mr. Drischel: To be candid with you, I am ashamed of the cream- 

 eries and factories of this State. It is an actual fact that the exhibits 

 have been very poor at the State Fair, there being only six or eight tubs 

 there. In fact, just as Mr. Schlosser said a moment ago, I like to rub 

 up against men that make us compete, and I am ashamed that the cheese 

 men did not come here and discuss this question of making cheese, and ad- 

 vance ideas on the cheese problem among the creamerymen, but I am sorry 

 to say their exhibits are very few here today. They ought at least to have 

 thirty tubs of butter, and there are only three cheese in the room. I like 

 to see the creamerymen and cheese men get together and confer and 

 aavance the creamery interests and the cheese interests. 



President: It may not be out of place for me to make a statement 

 here in connection with the exhibits. During most of these years that I 

 have been at all interested and in a position to have anything to do with 

 the selection of the judges, for examination of the butter and cheese 

 shown before the Indiana State Dairy Association, the greatest care has 

 been exercised to get some one to judge whom we believed was capable 

 and fair-minded, and for several years we have had a gentleman from 

 Chicago, who has stood high in the city of Chicago for his work as a 

 judge. I have always thought we have had fair judges where there has 

 never been a question about their integrity or even their ability. For our 

 State Board of Agriculture exhibits we have had judges that were capa- 

 ble men. I know the State Board of Agriculture sent away up into Wis- 

 consin to get a man that stood high as a judge, but in spite of these fact^ 



