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about the only balanced food that, can be used in substitution 

 for meat. Now are we, as cheosemakcrs of the state, o-oino- to 2:0 

 on and try to fool the people of New York i What arc we iiuing 

 to do with the skimmed milk cheese and the washed curd cheese; 

 or are we going to make simply a full milk cheesed Branding- 

 is a very good thing, but as Mr. Frederiksen brought up, we 

 ought to have some way to protect the consumer. Possibly the 

 best way will be to start with the factory and brand the cheese 

 what they are in the factory. 



-Mil. SwEETi^AND : It would be impossible for cheese factories 

 to pay for milk on the Babcock test until the state law compels 

 them to do so, because the patrons will not allow it. 



Chaikman Fisk : You believe if a man has rich milk he 

 ought not to get paid for it on quality basis ? 



Mr. Sweetlaa^d: No; i am saying you must face the con- 

 dition as it is ; and the farmer will compel the factory to pay for 

 the milk by measure as he wants it done. As has been suggested, 

 if one-third want to buy by Babcock test and two-thirds by weight 

 and the manufacturer does not pay by weight, they will put up a 

 cooperative factory beside him. Wherever in the western part of 

 the state they have tried to buy on the Babcock test basis 

 they have invariably, I believe, gone back to weight, simply 

 because a majority of the farmers have a low-test milk. 



j\Ir. llichardson was talking about the quality of the milk and 

 sanitation of the factory. 1 approve heartily of all that the de- 

 partment has done along that line, notwithstanding the fact that 

 they have stepped on my toes sometimes. But 1 have always 

 believed and maintained that they have begun at the wrong place. 

 The average cheesemakcr can make good cheese if he has good 

 quality milk. The trouble all the time is to get good-quality milk. 

 I believe the beginning point of the sanitation question should be 

 at the farm. It should be done ria'ht alon<>- at the same time that 

 the department men inspect cheese factories ; they could go right 

 around to the dairy farmer and compel him to put his baini and 

 his surrountlings in the proper condition. If the inspector of the 

 department will go around and inspect every dairy he will see 

 that that is the place where the work needs most to be done. 



Mr. RicnARDSf)N : J wish to say that the department has 

 given attention to this work and is giving attention to it, but I 



