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ceiit. ; depending mostly on the washing process. Adding to that 3 

 per cent, salt would allow you about 1(5 per cent, for moisture. 

 There is another question at the present time that is agitating 

 some of the makers, as to whether butter shouhl be left under the 

 Internal Kevenue Department or put with the Pure Food Depart- 

 ment. The principal difficulty in the way would ])e that the 

 Pure Food Department has no jurisdiction over butter except 

 when it becomes interstate traffic. If it was permitted or left 

 under the pure food law in the state, a manufacturer could load 

 his butter with water or salt. Some men are getting wise to this 

 already. I am not an advocate of this, although I am sometimes 

 accused of being a high water man. 



Voice : Has not the manufacture of oleomargarine been an 

 aid to the biittermaker by compelling competition ? 



Prof. McKay : I would say not. Good butter never competes 

 with oleomargarine; that is, if oleomargarine is sold for what it 

 is. If vou eliminate the butter fat from oleomarsrarine you would 

 have tallow and lard mixed together, which would not give you 

 veiy much flavor. I presented before Congress the diflPerent 

 formulas used in the manufacture of oleomargarine, and where 

 only milk, instead of butter was used, oleomargarine was produced 

 for 8 cents a pound — about 1/3 the cost of butter. Where they 

 used 25 per cent, butter it cost about 14 cents, if I remember cor- 

 rectly. The only question is the color of the fats. I am entirely 

 willing that oleomargarine be sold as oleomargarine but we 

 must have a line of demarkation between butter and oleomargarine 

 or one will crowd the other out. In the discussion that took place 

 before the agricultural committee it was estimated I believe by the 

 Commissioner of Internal Revenue that 50 per cent, of the oleo- 

 margarine was not sold tor oleomargarine but for butter, at butter 

 prices. That is whore the fraud comes in, I want to say a few 

 words in behalf of J\lr. Flanders. He has worked very actively 

 with our ('oimniltee in Washing-ton and lias rendered a lot of 

 valual)l(' service in their interests. His counsel concerning laws 

 and reguhitions we have found to l»e good and sound. 



Mr. Stone of Sonyea: I would like to ask if the United 

 States government in their specifications for pni'chasing butter 

 for the army and navy specify the nmnber of degrees of heat for 



