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after I had gone to bed. We had the finest kind of fruit. We didn't have 

 the worms and scabs. And to my mind conditions have changed, but 1 

 believe that the man with energy and brains, not very many, not neces- 

 sarily an expert, can groW fine fruit, but it will take more effort and more 

 energy than it did fifty years ago. 



Prof. Hedrick: I think conditions have changed to a certain extent. 

 I think it is harder to grow fruit, and I only asked the question hoping 

 that Mr. Van Deman would answer it, and would state that it requires 

 more effort and more skill and harder work to grow fruit now than it 

 formerly did. We must meet the new conditions that have come to the 

 fruit grower within the last quarter of a century. 



Mr. Fields: My observation in the West— in the State of Washing- 

 ton — is this. We have some very fine fruit there, but this same question 

 came up there with those fruit growers, and they made it a strong 

 point that they had to fight a harder battle to raise fruit now than 

 formerly. I simply make this remark. 



Mr. Van Deman: I think it is perfectly clear that conditions have 

 changed in some ways. Of course the sun shines just the same as it 

 used to; the wind blows, and it rains and we have sudden changes in the 

 weather. Yes, we have different conditions from what we had even since 

 I can remember. We have more fungous diseases to fight, and we have to 

 fight them harder, but we can raise just as good fruit as our grand- 

 fathers did. 



Mrs. Virginia C. Meredith: Aren't all these disadvantages more than 

 set off by the different varieties and the appliances we have? 



Mr. Van Deman: Yes, we can handle the fruit business much better 

 if we will. That is all we lack— the will. 



Prof. Latta: We will now close the discussion for the time. This 

 aflernoon the subject of forestry will be the one for discussion. The 

 speakers are all here and are in the room. We are glad to announce 

 this fact, and we want to begin on time. We did not begin on time 

 Ihis morning, and I fear we set a bad example. We are to meet at 1:30. 

 If possible we will have some music. If not, we will proceed without it. 

 invito your friends to come this afternoon. 



We will now stand adjourned until 1:30 this afternoon. 



