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Mr. Williams: Not any great length of time. 



Mr. Swaim: Isn't the temperature usually 31° or 32°? 



Mr. Williams: Yes, just below freezing. If there is an insect there 

 the 18° will hold it there, and there is no change apparently in the 

 apple. But my experience in taking apples out of cold storage is that 

 this 31°-32° will hold the insects. If you will go to Indianapolis you will 

 find a great many wormy ones there. Insects can not do vei*y much on 

 an apple when it is frozen. 



Mr. DeVilbiss: Do you think it would be practical for a man who 

 had fifteen or twenty acres in apples to attempt to build a cold storage 

 on his own f)remises? 



Mr. Williams: That is a question I can hardly answer. I would 

 rather infer that someone else had some apples arouud there if this man 

 had fifteen acres, and in that case they might co-operate and . go into 

 partnership and build a cold storage. They might do this for the benefit 

 of themselves and their neighbors and make money out of it, too. 



Prof. Latta: You have struck the keynote on co-operation, but our 

 people are asleep on this question. 



Mr. Grossman: Have you come to any conclusion in regard to the 

 cause of the rust and the scald? Is it especially noticeable on certain 

 varieties or on all varieties? Does the temperature make any difference? 



Mr. Williams: I think the temperature has something to do with it. 

 I am inclined to think it has all to do with it. Experts have not been 

 able to decide what is the cause of the scald on the apple. It is being 

 experimented on in different temperatures, and I think they have dis- 

 covered that certain varieties are affected with the scald much more 

 easily than other varieties. 



Mr. DeVilbiss: Have you ever noticed them scald when they are 

 packed in boxes? 



Mr. Flick: Yes, I have. 



Mr. Williams: I have not seen the scald so extensive when they are 

 packed in boxes except on coast apples. Our native fruit has not been 

 handled very much in Doxes yet, but it is very successful. 



Mr. Flick: There will be a great deal more known about this cold 

 storage business after the close of the World's Fair in St. Louis. W"e 

 have fruit from every part of the United States there. At the close 

 of the Fair we will have a record of the different varieties shown there; 

 the different conditions under which they grew, and the different treat- 



