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more farmers do not use thorn beoanso thov am allowed a rebate on 

 their taxes in the use of tlie broad tire. 



MR. SCHWARZ: Mr. Martin knows that we advocated the pas- 

 sage of that law, for the broad tires, and we claim that would 

 help keep the roads in repair. 



The motion of Mr. Herr, as to the publication in bulletin form 

 was seconded by Mr. Schwarz, and being put, it was agreed to. 



COL. DEMMING: Would it be of much advantage to the State 

 Commissioner of Highv/ays if, through the instrumentality of the 

 Board, a table was prepared showing the best material for road 

 building, as to hardness, tougness, durability and compactness, and 

 the localities where this stone is found? 



MR. HUNTER: In reply I would say that would be a very great 

 benefit and assistance to me and I should like to meet the gentleman 

 and go over the subject with him in order to get the information 

 where the material is to be found. We have no conveniences in 

 the State for testing materials in any way. They have at Washing- 

 ton a testing department and I am going to attend a meeting there 

 soon and propose to take with me some samples of the rock that I 

 obtained in various sections of the State and have them tested. 



COL. DEMMING: They have a first class testing machine at State 

 College. 



MR. HUNTER: We have a State College and if this road law is 

 to be carried out we will have to have a lot of young men trained in 

 the art of road building. We have very few road builders in this 

 State. We have a lot of theorists, lots of men who can sit down and 

 tell you how to do it, but none who can go out and build them. 

 One of the things our State College should do is to prepare young 

 men for this work. 1 am willing to help them and instruct them 

 in the art of road building so that the State will furnish a crop of 

 etficient road builders all over this State. It is impossible with the 

 force in my Department, myself and one assistant, to keep control 

 and examine all the roads to be built. This summer we have a road 

 in Lackawanna, one in Chester, one in Snyder, one in Warren, one 

 or tw^o in Bucks and how are we going to do that work, and do it 

 right ,unless we have more experts in the work? We should also 

 have inspectors because it is not fair to do this work without having 

 them inspected. 



A Member: One of the gentlemen referred to the trolleys being 

 a menace to the farmers. After having constructed a number of 

 miles of this road, are you going to allow the trolleys to tear up 

 our roads which have been made bv State aid? 



