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Mr. Greene: When did you cut off the main stalk of the tree? 



Mr. Gellatly: About a year ago last spring. The shoots came 

 up last year. That is a slow way to get started compared to tlie 

 grafting of apple trees, but it is a sure way. 



Mr. Greene: Speaking about your budding and lack of success, 

 I am interested in knowing whether it was what Dr. Morris called 

 "immediate" or otherwise. Did you, at the time you put on your 

 patch bud make the wound on your stof;k immediately? 



INIr. Gellatly: Immediately. 



INIr. Greene: I tried that too and was not successful. If you 

 wound your tree with your patch budder ten days previously, it gives 

 the tree a chance to get the healing material on the job. In our 

 budding we always remove all the wood from the patch. I under- 

 stand from Mr. Hershey he leaves the wood. 



The Chair: Mr. Jones usually left some wood on it, that is, 

 the patch budder was used to mark and the patch was removed with 

 the knife. In some instances it did not readily remove. In such in- 

 stances he removed the wood as well. I don't think there is any 

 harm in removing some of the wood. 



]\Ir. Hershey: I think you will have a complete failure if you 

 don't leave the wood. It will leave an air space, it if does nothing 

 else, to start decomposition. Even if the wood gets loose you can 

 catch it and put it back in. 



Mr. Neilson: I had much better success after I left a small bit 

 of wood underneath. Mr. Gellatly, have you ever noticed that buds 

 will start the second year, in cases where they fail to grow the first 

 year ? 



Mr. Gellatly: That has been our experience. 



Mr. Neilson: I found that, in several cases on black walnut, I 

 set the bud patch on the stock and the patdh caught but the bud died. 



Mr. Gellatly: That is our own experience. Any that grew 

 did so the second year. 



The Chair: Did you do your budding in the late summer or fall? 



Mr. Gellatly: We did it in the fall. 



The Chair: If the budding had been in August 1926, you would 

 liave expected it to grow in August, 1927, and it actually did grow 

 in August, 1928? 



Mr. Gellatly: That is the idea. 



