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know exactly who to blame. If I knew I would say a little 

 more. I don't know exactly who to blame. I had a notion 

 that if the managers of the institutes and the county 

 chairmen would get together — I better put that this way : if the mana- 

 gers of the county institutes of the sections, if they would get to- 

 gether and start the itinerary at one end of the county and from that 

 county to the next county and in that way have it so arranged that 

 when Saturday night comes these men can be in a place where there 

 are hotels or railroad facilities to get away to hotels, I believe that 

 could be arranged; if the chairmen of the counties of the sections 

 would get together with the manager of the institutes and simply 

 mark out an intinerary from the beginning of the institute to the end 

 of them, that they could manipulate it in such a way that all these dif- 

 ficulties that Mr. Peachey is finding fault with, and that 1 sometimes 

 growl about, and Mr. Lighty don't like, and the rest of the fellows 

 walk away from when we want to stay, I say I believe that that thing 

 could be arranged and managed so these difficulties could be done 

 away with. I am not ready to offer a resolution but 1 believe the 

 chairmen of the various sections in the State ought to get together 

 with the county chairmen and make out the itinerary from one end to 

 the other so that we can be put to that place where there is comfort 

 and the possibility to get away if we want to. 



The CHAIRMAN: We will have to limit each and every speaker to 

 five minutes. 



Mr. Shuey made one^reference here that I would like to answer if 

 I may be permitted. I am one of the men that is here to say, and 1 

 have said it before at these meetings, I don't want any county chair- 

 man to serve without pay. If any men in the State of Pennsylvania 

 deserve pay for the services they do and the services that are telling, 

 it is the county chairmen of the farmers' institutes of the State, and 

 I say they deserve pay. 



ME. JOEL A. HERR: Mr. Chairman, I am sorry to say what I 

 have to say. I believe the object of the meeting was to talk about or 

 have a conference on the farmers' institutes, the better manner of con- 

 ducting them and how to make the best institute; but we have drifted 

 about and have been talking about the subject of Sunday work and 

 the hardships we have to endure and these very fellows are tumbling 

 all over each other to get on the institute force. I don't know whether 

 that is correct or not. I want to say we ought to come down to the 

 subject, how best to conduct an institute and get success; the impres- 

 sions we leave on the people is what we want to know and instructions 

 in the management of our county institutes. I am not going to make 

 a long speech. We want to impress the people with the importance of 

 our calling. That is the first and foremost thought that ought to be 

 brought out before the farmers' institute, to teach the farmer to re- 

 spect himself and his business, and if we don't do that nobody else 

 will respect us. This is the first and most important point to make. 

 In order to do that we must speak respectfully of our calling; we must 

 show how to make it more agreeable, how more convenient, how to bet- 

 ter our home conditions and circumstances of our assistants and make 

 it more desirable to keep the boys and girls on the farm and to make 

 farming the great business it ought to be. We ought to learn to co- 



