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has done harm in Chester county at the placed indicated. My friend 

 over there, Prof. Hantz, is a pretty good farmer. It is not just that 

 lime spot that produces on his farm, but he lets the clover roots re- 

 turn to that soil the humus or vegetable matter that it needs. 



MK. STOUT: I have not bought a bushel of lime for thirty years. 

 Some seasons my clover crops fail and some seasons they do not. 

 This year I had plenty of clover because there was abundance of 

 rain; it rained bacteria, I presume, but I used fertilizers, frequently 

 use them to the extent of GOO pounds to the acre. I raise a crop of 

 vegetables and fruit and wherever I put the largest application of 

 fertilizers I usually have the best crop of clover. I find the farmers 

 in my section of the country, where they use the least fertilizer, have 

 the poorest crops, no matter whether they use acid phosphate or 

 some other fertilizer. • 



MR. KAHLER: I would like to ask Mr, Agee why he asserted that 

 the use of acid phosphate would work out clover? My experience 

 is rather, that it works in clover. I have land that I couldn't 

 raise clover on. If the gentlemen will come along with me I will 

 show them as fine a piece of cloA'er as they can see anywhere. 

 By returning the vegetable matter back to the soil, I will take the 

 chances that I can get clover in an ordinary season, whether I use 

 lime or whether I don't, and I will take the chances with the acid 

 phosphate with that kind of treatment, without fearing that it will 

 impoverish my land. 



MR. AGEE: I didn't make the statement — there is nobody here 

 that I would want to mislead; I didn't say that the use of acid phos- 

 phate would drive out clover, because right at State College, where 

 there is limestone land, and where it has been treated with bone 

 black, they will show you a beautiful clover plot. I ask you, 

 gentlemen, when you get to State College, to look at it. You will 

 get a lesson there, I do not doubt. Mr. Stout can use acid phosphate, 

 I presume, because he has enough lime in that ground to prevent 

 over-acidity. I did say, no matter how much manure you put there, 

 if you plow it in and mix it well with the soil, and to answer the 

 question over a little bit, I would like to have the manure on the 

 land and try for the clover. I would use my litmus paper test, and 

 if I found that the blue paper turned red quickly, I would say, I 

 wanted by manure to take that acid out. 



MR. BOND: I have concluded that it has resolved itself into a ques- 

 tion of practice and not principle. A number of years ago I recol- 

 lect there was a run of chills and fever in my county, and I suffered 

 from them, and was run down so that the food which I took refused 

 to do its proper work in my system. I resorted to quinine; that allay- 

 ed the fever and cured the chills, and it improved my physical condi- 



