No. 7, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. 491 



The CHAIR: You have heard the report of your Committe. \Vhat 

 disposition will you make of it? 



It was moved and seconded that the report be adopted as read, 

 which was agreed to. 



MR. HUTCHISON: There is another matter that I wish to pre- 

 sent to the Board in regard to a bill creating a State Fair. The 

 members of the Committee are all in favor of a State Fair and will 

 want help along that line; and in reading over the list of the organi- 

 zations that recognize or are to participate in this fair, we find the 

 State Board of Agriculture has been exempted, and the Committee 

 thought it was not proper that we should endorse that without 

 bringing it before the body. We deferred that endorsement, but 

 we are ready to help these gentlemen, and do anything in our power. 

 We would like to have an explanation from them why they left out 

 this old and honorable body, and recognized the Carnegie Institute 

 in Pittsburg, the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia and kindred 

 other agricultural organizations. They also left out the Poultry 

 Association, which may have been an oversight. We want to work 

 hand in hand in this, but we want to have a little say, you know. 

 We would like to hear from Brother Norton. 



MR. NORTON: Mr. Cairman, I don't know that I am entitled to 

 the floor. In explanation of this I would say we thought of this 

 matter, and when we came to look up the law, we found that the 

 Secretary of Agriculture and the Secretary of the State Board was 

 one and the same person, and it apparently gave them two members 

 of the Board of Directors. That was the reason this was done. 

 Now it is not yet too late. This bill has not been presented, and we 

 want to have the opinion of the State Board here. We want the 

 help of all the organizations; we want the help of the State Board of 

 Agriculture, and also of the allied organizations throughout the 

 State. 



In reference to the Carnegie Institute and Franklin Institute, we 

 have got to have the help of manufacturers. Dr. Leonard Pearson, 

 of Philadelphia, Mr. Bayard, of Pittsburg and myself drew the 

 bill and we tried to get others to meet with us. We had a few but 

 didn't have the number with us that we should have had. We want 

 the co-operation of every one, not only one interest, but all interests. 

 If we have made a mistake, we shall be glad to correct it. We thought 

 of the Poultry Association, but I don't know why the Poultry Asso- 

 ciation should be recognized. The Pennsylvania Live Stock Asso- 

 ciation includes every breeder of stock in the State of Pennsylvania, 

 from horses down to dogs, poultry and all classes are included. If 

 you single out the Poultry Association, why not swine, and perhaps 

 horse and cattle breeders. We considered the matter and concluded 

 it could not be done, so we took but one man from the Breeders' 

 Association; that includes everything, horses, cattle, swine, dogs 

 and cats if they see fit to show them. We want to include the State 

 Board of Agriculture and that was the only reason. When we came 

 to look at the law we found that the Secretary of the State Board 

 was also the Secretary of Agriculture and it gave them two members 

 on the State Board, and%v\^e tried to cut the membership down to fif 

 teen. 



