No. 7. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. 527 



$6, while Ben Davis is down about where it was. This simply 

 shows you what the Stayman Winesap is doing. The Ben Davis 

 is like the western apple, good to look at, but not quite so nice to 

 eat. The Ben Davis is a fairly good seller in the Philadelphia 

 market, but New York and Pittsburg want a little higher grade. It 

 does not do so well there. 



A Member: While all this is very interesting, I was at a meet- 

 ing at the Carlisle Indian School, and I heard Prof. Surface there 

 recommend the Ben Davis as one of the best apples to grow. I had 

 a laugh all to myself, because I had four or five hundred bushels, 

 and was going all over the country trying to sell them and could 

 not. 



PROF. SURFACE: Is there anyone else here who was at that 

 meeting? I would like to have somebody to make good on that. 



MR. GOSSARD: I think I can help Prof. Surface. I am the 

 superintendent for one of the Fruit Growers of Franklin county, 

 and we stated that we got a higher price for the Ben Davis than 

 for any of our other apples, and Prof. Surface said that was, of 

 course, the apple for us to plant then. 



PROF. SURFACE: There is the point. I am glad there was some 

 one to corroborate me. Col. Middleton said he was selling his Ben 

 Davis apples at |4 right in his orchard; that the Ben Davis was a 

 money producer right here in this region, and I said, of course, 

 under those circumstances that is the apple for you to plant. 



A Member: Can you sell the Ben Davis twice to the same 

 dealer? 



PROF. SURFACE : Once ; the second time you sell him the Gano. 



PROF. WATTS : I rather like the suggestion made by Mr. Hale 

 that we make our fruit so good that people can't do without it. 

 About this apple — I will not name it — why say anything about it at 

 this meeting? I heard another name for it up in New York State; 

 you know it is usually put on the table along with a few other 

 apples, and they call it there the "Stay" apple. I asked how it 

 got that name, and they told me it always stayed on the table. 



The gentleman in the rear who spoke of the condition of the 

 Philadelphia market is all right. The unnamable apple is now sell- 

 ing at |3, while the Stayman could not be had for less than 10. 



MR. YOUNGS: Last year the apples that ripened slowly, like the 

 Northern Spy, were up to the normal in quality, while those that 

 ripened earlier were very dry and defective in quality. The later 

 apples received the benefit of the rains that came on after the long 

 dry snell we had, while the earlier apples suffered as the result of 

 that drouth. 



MR. IMr-KAY: Tn reference to Mr. Wertz's apples, I want to say 

 that I visited his orchard, and he had some of the most splendid 

 apples I ever saw. He sold some of his first Jonathans. T think, 

 for .|4. and not long before Christmas the dealer retailed them for 

 .fl2. while the Bon Davis was bringing only ,f2 to the producer. 



MR. GOOD: The gentleman says the dealer sold them for $12; 

 what did the producer get? 



MR. McKAY: He received the |4, and that was the highest I 

 have ever known the market to go. 



MR. NEWCOMER: We ^et a better quality of Ben Davis on a 

 good sandy, or sandstone soil than on any other it is grown on. 



