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suspicious of it, but any creamery man who has a distrusting 

 patron can obviate that distrust if he has a mind to. Let 

 duplicate tests be made. We offer to every farmer who dis- 

 trusts or is suspicious a duplicate test, the test is made and if 

 they shall agree we assume the test has been right, and in 

 some cases we have had quadruple tests made. It is easy to 

 do this, and there is a disposition on both sides to come to- 

 gether and do justice to one another. 



Mr. Holt. Will Mr. Adams state whether since organizing 

 this cooperate creamery they have been able to get the same 

 per cent, of butter from the creamery as they did at home with 

 their own churns. 



Mr. Adams. I think there is a misunderstanding some- 

 times in regard to this matter when patrons are paid by the 

 Babcock test. Until the present year the patrons of Vermont 

 creameries have been paid upon the butter fat. Many fall 

 into error through ignorance. The Legislature of 1898 passed 

 a law providing that all products of the creamery should be 

 paid for on the basis of actual butter. We have a patron of 

 our creamery who said to our butter maker a few weeks ago, 

 "Is not butter doing better this \ T ear than it was last? Yet 

 I am getting but little more than I did last year?" He was 

 told that "last year we paid on the butter fat, this year on 

 the number of pounds of butter, hence the misunderstanding." 



Mr. Holt. We understand we are paid on a very low scale 

 of prices if paid on the actual amount of butter. 



Gov. Hoard. Are you not paid the market price? 



Mr. Holt. Yes sir, but we do not get credit for as much 

 butter as we are able to get at home. 



Gov. Hoard. What is the price? 



Mr. Holt. I could not tell you at the present time, but I 

 had this experience with the creamery. I took twenty gallon 

 of cream, mixed it thoroughly and sent one-half to the 

 creamery and churned the other half at home. I gained one 

 pound in six at home from what they got at the creamery, I 

 think Mr. Walker as well as others have had the same experi- 

 ence at the same creamery. 



Gov. Hoard. If your cream at the creamery was adjudicated 

 upon the Babcock test you got so many pounds of butter fat 

 and not butter ;butter usuallv runs one-sixth more than butter 

 fat. 



Mr. Holt. We know what we got paid for. 



Gov. Hoard. Seems to me your creamery should have some 

 standard to go by. 



Mr. Wallace. I think Vermont is unfortunate in some re- 

 spects. If we had men like Gov. Hoard to run our creameries 

 we should be safe, but we have not. We became distrustful of 



