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Q. I have sprayed while the trees were in full bloom, antrquite extensively 

 while they were in full bloom; I didn't have any Paris green, nor I didn't 

 want any. Before I came to this meeting I talked with Mr. Statler, wdio 

 carried the banner of the state for a long time. He said the best success 

 he ever had was spraying just before they bloomed, and following it up even 

 until they were in bloom, and finishing up while they were right in bloom. 

 He said he was going to do that next year; that the best year he ever had was 

 when he did that. 



Q. I would like to ask if there is any danger of killing bees by spraying 

 just when the blossoms are dropping; that is, when one-half or two-thirds 

 of the blossoms have dropped? 



Prof. Hedrick: I think not. I think the bees prefer to get on the blossoms 

 as soon as they open. 



Mr. Mullen: Over near Lapeer, those that omitted the fall spraying 

 this year, although it was a late year, lost very heavily by the codling moth; 

 and the loss has been very heavy there where the trees have not been sprayed 

 in August for two years. 



Prof. Hedrick: We shall have to come, I fear, to a spraying in early 

 August as a yearly practice; have to do it as a matter of insurance. I feel 

 sure of that. 



Dr. Brunson: With all due deference to the man from New York, I 

 would say I sprayed with the lime and sulphur, and having read and heard 

 it was not necessary to use that Bordeaux mixture before blossoming, I 

 let that go, and am sorry; I had quite a lot of scab. 



Dr. Brunson: Three times after the blossoms dropped. I believe it is 

 necessary; that is, where we have more scab than they do to spray directly 

 before the blossoms come out, if we are going to be sure of getting ahead 

 of the scab. In Western New York, where they have sprayed more and 

 longer than we have, and have not so much scab, maybe then the lime and 

 sulphur will do; but where they have not done so for a good while, and have 

 a good deal of scab, I am sorry to say I lost a good deal of money by not 

 spraying previous to their coming out. I think Mr. Crane will bear me out; 

 and there are a good many down in our neighborhood who believe that to 

 be the case. 



Mr. Crane: Mr. Statler told me that was the great mistake he made, 

 that he sprayed with the lime and sulphur, and thought he might omit 

 the spraying just before the blooming, and so he did; and while his has been 

 the banner apple orchard, there were many orchards better than his this 

 year. 



Mr. Crane: If we are following this thing enough to know what we are 

 doing, we ought to know what we are spraying for. I put the question 

 to Prof. Taft, and I asked him if he knew where the winter spore was that 

 made the occasion for the summer spore, and where found? "Yes," he 

 said, "you could see it through the microscope." Where did you find it? 

 "Plenty of them on the dead leaves on the ground and around." Did you 

 ever find any on the tree on the bare wood? He stopped and hesitated a 

 few moments. He says, "I must confess I never have found any on the 

 wood." Now what are you spraying the bare wood for, if you never found 

 them? What are you trying to kill? You are trying to kill the winter 

 spore that would only become the active spore in summer; and if you can't 

 find it on the bare wood what are you trying to kill it there for? 



Prof. Hedrick: You are getting this into plant pathology, and you haven't 

 taken it far enough. We don't spray to kill the winter spore on the apple 



