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have always asked that the frait men would take advantage of their 

 offers to take care of the fruit do not know what to do. 



Mr. Hartzell — I want to say that in the State of Missouri a place I 

 have seen, constructed by a gentleman of our organization, that is the 

 finest place I have seen for the storing away of apples. 



Brother Gilbert.has a hole in the ground worth many thousand 

 dollars. There is a hole in the ground that would make a grand place ; 

 that is it; we can have a hole in the ground to keep the apples. We 

 want a better place than the cold storage, and every man or woman 

 who "is interested in this can have a place right where they live. We 

 have got the orchard, the fruit and the ground to make the hole in. 

 Will we make it ? that is the question. 



Mr. Hazeltine — I would like to ask whether apples will keep bet- 

 ter under ground in a cellar or above ground ? 



A. Mr. Goodman — I can simply tell you that below ground is the 

 beet so far as my experience has gone. 



Mr. Van Houten — When we were keeping fruit for the Columbian 

 Exposition the fruit kept very well, but we ought to remember that at 

 that time cold storage was in an experimental stage and the fruit was 

 taken in comparatively small quantities, but the great trouble is that 

 the American people try and overdo everything ; as soon as they 

 thought they had a good thing they rushed the fruit in rapidly, and the 

 change of temperature of the fruit from time to time caused the in- 

 jury. The result is that underground cold storage is the best way out 

 of the diflficulty. 



Mr. Evans — There is one important thing not been mentioned and 

 that is to have the walls to your cellar as much natural earth as pos- 

 sible ; that will destroy all disease germs quicker than anything. 



Q. How would you remedy that in a cellar that has stone walls? 



A. You could have a wooden wall and have spaces in it that will 

 hold the bank back and yet allow the disease germs to pass into the 

 earth. Where the cellar is all right take a little hand spraying machine 

 and whitewash it and that will kill all the disease germs ; put a little 

 carbolic acid in with it. 



Mr. The cold storage where I kept my apple trees has been 



used as a cold storage cellar, but I think we do not get enough venti- 

 lation. 



Mr. Goodman — You can never make a cold storage out of your 

 apple cellar, because it has doors open out right on the ground and 

 you cannot keep apples there ; if you would dig it out and put double 

 doors inside and outside yon might make a cold storage out of it. 

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