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killed by the frost and have died down a little, so that I can get on with a 

 disc harrow, I sow on a little r3'e and that gathers all the nitrogenous 

 matter and in that way make a trap to hold it. 



Prof. Tracy: That is in Georgia? 



Mr. Hale: That is in Connecticut. 



Prof. Tracy : Did you get your rye big enough ? 



Mr. Hale : O yes. Wh}', we can sow rye here on the 1st of October, the 

 10th or loth of October, and get a good growth. 



The President: At the meeting of the Western New York society, last 

 January, some of these matters were gone into very thoroughly, Mr. Hale 

 taking part in the discussion. In regard to crimson clover, with the 

 understanding that it was to die during the winter, Prof. Roberts made a 

 report of some careful experiments in that line as to the value of nitrogen 

 trapped between a point in July or August — do you recollect the time^ 

 Mr. Hale? 



Mr. Hale: I think it was about the 20th of July. 



The President: Somewhere along there; but at a time the fall growth 

 had ceased, and his different experiments taken up and tested, the ordi- 

 nary commercial value of nitrogen placed upon them, and he found at the 

 rate of from |G to $13 per acre left in the stock or plant as the product 

 gained during that time. Consequently the opinion was there that it 

 would be profitable, if it never wintered, in the gathering of nitrogen. 

 Am I not nearly correct in these figures, Mr. Hale? 



Mr. Hale: I am not sure about the figures, but he was emphatic that 

 even though crimson clover did not live through the winter it paid well 

 for its sowing, and I am sure crimson clover will pay even if you are sure 

 it will kill out. 



The President: I am quite sure those are the figures Prof. Roberts 

 gave of the different tests, and my recollection is that the concensus of 

 opinion, in which Mr. Hale coincided, was that if a man followed that in 

 a peach orchard, year after year, he might get undue accumulations of 

 nitrogen. That is, an unnecessary amount, and it might possibly be hurt- 

 ful to the orchard, but not necessarily. 



Mr. Hale: That was generally stated. 



Mr. Perry: Speaking about sowing those cow peas to hold moisture 

 and help the land in a peach orchard, would it be any profit to harvest, 

 in regard to holding moisture? 



Mr. Riehl : Yes, but it makes very fine stock feed. You must be careful 

 and not let your stock eat too much of it. They like it so well, and they 

 will eat so much, that it is not good for them. I was at a party's place 

 who had grown a great many acres and had forty or fifty tons of cow 

 peas feed, with the pods, that he turned his mules and horses and cattle 

 to, and he found that they were too rich, and he had to fix the stock so as 

 to feed them instead of letting them go to the racks. They would not 

 eat anything else. 



The President: Mr. Riehl, during the time in which these cow peas 

 were growing in your orchard, did you suffer from drouth? 



Mr. Riehl: We had a drouth, and that is just the point that surprises 

 me, with such a heavy crop as was growing there and no cultivation, that 

 those trees would do better than they did in open, cultivated lands. 



The President: There was a general drouth? 



