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association. I liavc always thought that none of our associatious are 

 strong enough, that we should have an association of fruit shippers, 

 a central packing association, in which the board of directors should 

 have absolute control of the whole thing, and if people did not like the 

 way they were used all they would have to do would be to drop out. 



Mr. Hale: There are one or two points that Mr. Graham brought up, 

 about jealousies creeping in. I noticed this season, at the beginning, 

 certain ones were very slack in marketing their fruit, as to the condition 

 they would bring it to the packing-house; their fruit was inferior, small. 

 Of course we graded it, but did not grade it into the high grades. When 

 they came to get their pay they asked, " What is the matter? I have not 

 as much as my neighbor has." The books were of easy access to them. 

 I formed a plan so that they knew just how their fruit was grading. 

 1 would point them to the book and say, '' How is your fruit grading, 

 and how is your neighbor's fruit? iShould it not bring more than yours?" 

 After they saw these things they said, "'That is all right, that is just; 

 w'e will pay more attention to growing better fruit," and I do not antici- 

 pate we are going to have any trouble. 



Mr. Chase: I wish to call attention to one point which was referred 

 to, but which was not enlarged upon as I hoped it would be, and that 

 w'as the establishing of one grade for all classes of fruit. It seems to 

 me that that would be the most unsatisfactory plan that could be made. 

 For example, you take a variety that grows large, like, we will say, 

 Northern Sp3\ There would be no gradation of that kind of fruit what- 

 ever, it would all go into the highest grade. On the other hand, take 

 another class of fruit which is highh' flavored but never grows large, 

 like Wagener apples, for example, not more, perhaps, than two inches or 

 two and a half in diameter, that would go into the lowest grade, w^hen 

 in fact it should bring a very high price. It is a very highly flavored 

 fruit, and if the grower of that apple must take his chances with the very 

 smallest grade or lowest grade of some apple that grows large, there 

 would certainly be great injustice done him. It seems to me that the 

 only way to grade apples, if they are to be graded, or any kind of fruit, 

 in fact, is to make a separate grade for each variety, for No. 1, 2, 3, and 4 

 of Northern Spy, and No. 1, 2, 3, and 4 of other varieties. It would seem 

 to me a very serious objection to the plan of grading which was sug- 

 gested. 



Mr. Hale: Well, it is a matter of detail that can be remedied, but I 

 think the general grade is better. 



Mr. Morrill: The question is, whether No. 1, 2. and 3 refers to the size, 

 all mixed in together, or wdiether as No. 1, 2, and 3 Spys and No. 1, 2, and 

 3 Wageners. 



Mr. Hale: Well, this season we did not have many apples, of course. 

 I can see how a point might be made of that, but in peaches that does 

 not make so much difference. You could call Spy No. 1 Sp3% and Jona- 

 than No. 1 Jonathan, so far as that is concerned. 



Mr. Morrill: You expect to look up apples when you get a crop? Mr. 

 Hale: I do; yes, sir. 



Mr. Slayton: I should think everything could be equalized by having 

 every package marked the varietv of fruit and each variety as having a 

 No. 1, 2, and 3. 



