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priation of $25,000 in order to beat Michigan. The commission got up to 

 $10,000, but we refused it. So matters stood until September, when the mat- 

 ter was finally talked over, and our persistence was rewarded with $40,000 — 

 " only go ahead," they said. Meantime one of us had taken in hand the grape 

 interest and expended a large sum of money. He may get it back 

 sometime, and he may not. I made a collection of apples, but my work 

 has not been paid for. The trouble is that these men of the commissions 

 have no comprehension of the labor involved and the need of prompt pay- 

 ment. And besides competition with us New Yorkers, you Michigan men 

 must look out for the Canadians. Here sits Mr. Smith of Ontario, listen- 

 ing to all this, and his people are getting ready to go to Chicago and beat 

 all of us in the apple exhibit; and, I want to tell you, you must be careful 

 and active or they will do it. 



Mr. Bird: Mr. Willaed has been talking sense. The need is of money 

 and enough of it. It is late, but not yet too late so far as the fruit of next 

 season is concerned. 



SUMMING UP THE MATTER. 



Mr. Moreill: We may get some help from the next legislature, but some 

 one should have known at the beginning that a definite sum was obtain- 

 able. But up to date there has been no definite promise of a single dol- 

 lar for any specified purpose. I put the question direct to Mr. Belden, 

 if there was any money with which to pay the cost of collecting the exhibit, 

 and he said: '* No, sir. There is a fund, but it is for transportation. But 

 you would better keep a memorandum of what you expend, and when we 

 get through we may be able to fix it up somehow." 



Mr. Lyon gave notice that he would submit a proposal for legislative aid 

 to the society direct. This was greeted with applause. 



Mr. Monroe: I have not thought it best to make any recommendation 

 to the commission. They were advised by Chief Samuels of what it was 

 best to do in this matter, but saw fit to make an independent committee. 

 That is very well and we have no fault to find. But until the commission 

 directly state to some one, " Go ahead and make these expenses and we 

 will pay them" — until they will say this, it would be an imposition upon 

 any man to ask him to go about making expense to himself and others. 



Mr. Morrill: That involves the intent of a motion I meant to make. 

 The chair may hold me out of order; but as the commission has sent Mr. 

 Woodman here to confer with us, it would seem well for us to ask them 

 what they wish us to do. 



Chairman Garfield commended this and suggested that Mr. Monroe 



