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about in this matter, and us a general thing the finest colored 

 grapes are the best, yet the market demands those without color ; 

 while with the apple, generally the finest colored are the 230orest, 

 and those without color the best; and yet the market demands the 

 opposite. 



The raspberry, red, as in most markets, those that will ship the 

 best, will sell the best, and the same with the black cap. A bright 

 solid color will sell the best if they are firm enough to shij) five or 

 six hundred miles. 



The Thwack, a very poor berry, has a good sale, because it 

 will carry to the mountains in perfect order. At home for private 

 use or market it is too well known for poor quality to be of much 

 demand. Our home market demands something better for its use. 



The blackberry, nothing but the Kittitiny. The strawberry 

 wants good size, fair flavor and good color to make a first-class 

 market fruit, if it is firm enough to carry a fair distance. 



The Charles Downing is a fair sample of what we want. The 

 Crescent is rather soft, but yet will carry some distance, if picked 

 when firm. 



Our market, therefore, demands not only fruit for home con- 

 sumption, but the greater, by far, demand is for good shipping 

 fruit, and this is found only in fruit of good size, good bearei', fair 

 quality only, and a good shipper. These are the demands of the 

 Kansas City market. 



DISCUSSING THE QUESTION. 



The paper was very generally discussed. Mr. F. Holsinger led 

 ofE as follows : "\ would beg to take issue with the gentleman in 

 regard to the adaptability of the finer varieties of rasj)berries over 

 the Thwack. I find, in my experience, that Thwack will outsell 

 the Turner, which is the very finest of red varieties. That usually 

 SI to $1.50 more will be paid by the people of the Kansas City 

 market for this indifferent variety over the best sorts." 



President Johnson, of Indiana, said the paj)er fitted Indiana. 



Mr. Z. S. Eagan, of Independence, Mo., mentioned the Bell- 

 flower as a profitable apple to grow. 



Dr. Gregory, of Arkansas, was a grape grower and he took 

 exceptions to the paper as to white grapes. He had found he could 

 only get about S cents for white grapes and one-half more for the 

 Concord and other colored grapes. 



Mr. L. A. Goodman stated that the fruit growers about Kansas 

 City realized twice as much from light, as dark grapes. 



