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program and the advertising and it is always a success. Now I 

 think that a good little bit of that money goes into the treasury 

 of that organization and is not spent for that particular institute. 

 They boasted that they had paid a good dividend on the money in 

 vested in the hall and I know that we helped them to pay it. 



I would like to have some instruction that would make it so that 

 I could say to them that the}- can have just so much rent for that 

 hall, and that the institute can be held for less than twelve dollars 

 and a half a daj^, which I believe it can, that I would be instructed 

 so that I could use the remainder of that $25 at such other point 

 as would be best in the county. We usually hold another indepen- 

 dent institute in our county. Sometimes I have a little money left 

 and when I do I am glad to do it. 



I think if I had such instructions as that, I could have more, and 

 have enough probably to hold one or two, or two or three more days 

 of institutes for the same money. 



MR. BLYHOLDER: I would like to ask whether you have been 

 giving them that |25. 



DR. CONARD: I have; I did it, but I did it under protest. 



The DEPUTY SECRETARY: You have asked a question Brother 

 Conard as to jour duty under the Act of Assembly; that Act pro- 

 vides that the expenses per day shall be twelve dollars and a half 

 providing the actual expenses amount to that much. The Act does 

 not say that there is absolutely twelve dollars and a half set apart 

 for local expenses, but it does say that providing the actual ex- 

 penses amount to twelve dollars and a half a day, that is the limit. 

 We recommend to the chairmen under this Act to keep the fund 

 within their own control. I would suggest that you make arrange- 

 ments with the local peojjle there for the use of that hall for so much 

 and pay that and no more; so much expense for the hall, so much 

 for their advertising and local expenses, nnd so on and so on. You 

 are then acting in conformity with the law governing you in that 

 case. I know" that you may delegate your power to these people in 

 a legal way, 3'ou may throw this fund into their hands if you so 

 choose, but you are the arbitrator, you are the one who under the 

 Act of Assembly the Department must look to for the careful dis- 

 tribution and expenditure of this fund. 



DR. CONARD: That is all right, but their bill comes like this; 

 they say so much for advertising. Now they are not always in 

 harmony with us; they do not always adopt our advertising, but 

 they usually get some more bills struck to suit themselves. They 

 make the advertising bill of pretty good size, so that really when 

 it comes to the settlement, it takes all the rest to pay them for 

 The hall, for they are a little like the traveling man with the suit 

 of clothes. Maybe you don't see it in his monthly expense account 

 but it is in there all the same; so they get it in. I think it would 

 be better if we were instnvted as Mr. Martin says in the Bulletin. 

 I have no doubt that we are so instructed now, but if there was an- 

 other clause added in the Bulletin that we should be rendered bills 

 for every item of expense incurred at each and every institute, and 

 that we are held accountable to the State for those bills, I think 

 it would be better. 

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