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and Ohio, that they must have from thirty to forty per cent, more 

 for horses if they peddle them out. They must pay for the horse*' 

 keep for three or tour months, and also the expenses of the man, 

 and they must have a higher price. 



The SECRETARY: I would like to say right here that we would 

 like to get the name of every one that participates in these proceed- 

 ings, so that when you come to read the report, you may know just 

 what was said, and who said it. If the Chairman is unable to give 

 the name, we would be very glad If you would mention your name, 

 so that we may have the record. 



EX-SECRETARY EDGE: The main part of the question seems 

 to be the appropriation. Now, we can hardly hope to secure this 

 this year, but if we present the bill properly, and arouse the interest 

 of our people, we will probably have no trouble to get it by another 

 year. 



MR. HALL: It seems to me that we are a little tender of the 

 prerogatives of the Legislative Committee. Would it not be well 

 for the Chairman to appoint a time to hear those who have any- 

 thing to be brought before this committee? If we don't want to 

 appoint a committee, we could go along this line. 



MR. HUTCHISON: 1 have great respect for Ex-Secretary Edge's 

 opinion along this line. He has done a great deal for this State. 

 And as he says, the great thing is the appropriation. We want in 

 this State an appropriation of four or five thousand dollars for the 

 improvement of live stock, the same as they have in Belgium. One 

 way of getting the people interested is the money. That will bring 

 about results. The suggestion of Mr. Hall is a good one, that the 

 Legislative Committee sit while we are here, to get the opinions of 

 those interested in the matter. We may be able to thrash something 

 out of this, and get something for good. These are times when peo- 

 ple are coming here, and asking for large appropriations for every 

 good cause, and why should not the agriculturists have their share? 

 So why not see the Governor, and tell him what we want? 



MR. NELSON: I would like to ask for information, whether 

 Brother Hutchison intends to include that small, but industrious 

 insect, the bee, in the live stock interests of Pennsylvania? If he 

 does, it will be a very good thing. 



I think that uiose opposed to the creation of an additional depart- 

 ment, may come in with us if the work is done, and the appropria- 

 tion asked for, by the State Board of Agriculture. And if the Stock 

 Breeders' Association, and the Dairy Union, and similar organiza- 

 tions, would join with us, it would enable us to get a larger appro- 

 priation. 



The CHAIR: I believe the proper thing to do is for us to reduce 

 the matter to a resolution, and let this resolution be handed in to the 

 Legislative Committee. And I would say in regard to the other 

 organizations coming, in with us, that I understand this will be the 

 case. We will have resolutions from our other organizations, and 

 can embody them in the bill. Now, the way to do things is to do 



