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to do, but now, I tell you when you do it you are taking dollars 

 out of your pocket, you can not get something out of nothing; 

 it is impossible to get more out of your milk at home than it 

 i'i possible for the creamery to get out of it. You cannot get 

 blood out of a stone. There is just so much in it, there is no 

 more and no less, the creamery can get just as much out of your 

 milk as you can get out of it and nine time out of ten he can get 

 more because he makes a closer separation of the milk than you. 

 Now, gentlemen, this is the way I feel about this matter. I do 

 not see where there is one argument in favor of the cream 

 gathering system in the State of Vermont today. 

 Applause. 



F. L. Smith : Ladies and Gentlemen. — I was brought up to 

 run a milk creamery. I was very loath to change to a cream 

 gathering system and, in fact, I did not change until I was 

 obliged to change or go out of business. 



Formerly when my butter went to. the market there would 

 come back a letter saying your butter is very nice or very fine, 

 or O. K., something of that kind, and since we have been on the 

 cream gathering system there has not been any change in the 

 tone of the letters from the Boston dealers. Now, I am as firm 

 a believer today in the cream gathering system as Mr. Turnbull 

 says he is. I believe it has come to stay. Whether we like the 

 condition or not we have got to accept it, and I have strong 

 belief that I can make as good butter under the cream gather- 

 ing system as I could under the milk system ; it is my experience, 

 and I have had a very long experience in this line. What ex- 

 perience I have had has been in favor of the cream gathering 

 system. I have churned this gathered cream, the cream mixed 

 with the milk, and I have churned it separately, and I do not see 

 as there is any change in the butter. If we would educate our 

 patrons to keep their cream in good shape, I see no reason why 

 as creamery men we cannot make as good butter under the cream 

 system as under the whole milk. 



We do not always get cream in as good shape as we ought 

 to, neither have we always got milk in as good condition as we 

 ought to, but I believe the cream gathering system is equal to 

 the milk creamery. That is my firm conviction and as I said 

 and as Mr. Turnbull has said, the cream gathering has come to 

 stay and I for one am glad of it. 



Mr. Smith : — I would like to ask Mr. Turnbull if he has 

 ever had any experience in trying to separate the cream? 



Turnbull : — I have never had any experience in that way. 

 It has been suggested to me by some of my patrons, and I have 

 been considering that for some time ; it was suggested to me 

 by one farmer not long ago that all the best cream be kept apart 



