Vermont Dairymen's Association. 79 



Mr. Blood : — I have not had the experience Mr. Turnbull or 

 Mr. Eddy have in regard to making butter or cream from milk. 



I have had experience in separating my cream and also in 

 using whole milk. There are two things these gentlemen have 

 brought up here, they say, or one of them says, you can get 

 more cream from your milk if you take it and separate it at home. 

 I want you to think just one moment; don't you know there is a 

 mechanical loss in the separation of milk ; are not you aware that 

 there is more of a mechanical loss in a small amount from several 

 machines than from one machine? 



I want to ask if you realize and of course you do that cream 

 can become contaminated with outside surroundings quicker 

 than milk? Mr. Waterhouse, one of the greatest butter makers 

 in New England said that cream would take bad odor the quick- 

 est O'i any known thing, milk cannot take it as quick as cream. 

 I do not cast any reflection upon Mr. Turnbull or Mr. Eddy or 

 any man who runs a creamery, but there is another thing you 

 farmers want to understand if you separate your milk and send 

 cream to the creamery, because there is more in the cream for 

 the creamery men than there is in the milk. Creamery men 

 would rather handle cream than milk. You have seen the time 

 when one gold dollar would buy more goods than paper ones 

 and cream will bring more sometimes than milk, to the creamery 

 man. 



I tell you that every time you bring cream to the cream 

 gathering creamery you farmers have got to pay the bills, no 

 creamery man is going to give you anything. You look at 

 it. You have got to have a separator and other machinery 

 and just as sure as you live you have got to pay for it. It 

 is easier for you farmers to pay for a creamery kept on the milk 

 system than on the cream system ; you can make a better quality 

 of butter, and a farmer than can not take good care of his milk, 

 how is he going to take good care oi his cream and separator? 



Mr. Turnbull :— With all due respect to Mr. Blood I take 

 issue upon that point that we had rather have cream than milk, 

 and you say we make more money on the cream. I think it is 

 the other way. I would be glad not to take any cream whatever 

 if it all came in milk, and do away with the team, but you cannot 

 do it. 



Ira E. Hunt : — Right in connection with what is being said 

 about milk being delivered to the creamery and the gathered 

 cream system ; I am fully aware that the gentleman that gave 

 us the paper is confronted with the same thing that we are at 

 our place. We started four years ago, in a modest way, a cream- 

 ery with one out-station, with no desire to enlarge our business, 

 started and organized under a co-operative plan to make our 



