368 THE MONTHLY BULLETIN, 



One single shipment of ten thonsand trees came from Missouri and 

 was refused admittance. 



]\Ir. Vaile. There are two points I want to add to this discussion. 

 The first one I will illustrate by telling a little story. A few years 

 ago a friend of mine went to one of the largest citrus nurseries in 

 southern California, a nursery which is known for its reliable stock, to 

 get some trees. He found only a few trees left in the stock for delivery 

 of that year. Those trees were very poor trees according to our esti- 

 mation. The leaves on some of them had fallen off, and some were 

 yellow, and the trees looked very "bum," to use that expression. We 

 asked the nurseryman if he really expected to sell those trees at first 

 class prices, as he was asking of us ; if he expected to sell them at those 

 prices to any one. The man said, "Tulare County demands that we 

 defoliate and wash all trees that we send up there, and we have several 

 orders from Tulare County, so we will take the leaves off these trees 

 find wash them up and then they will look just as good as any tree in 

 the nursery and no one will know the difference." There is the point 

 — we can't get enough tree inspection. If we are going to admit trees 

 from infested areas and allow nurserymen to use such methods as that, 

 how are we going to prevent pests from coming in from all parts of the 

 country ? 



The other point — I would like to suggest we bring up — I do not know 

 exactly how to introduce it. I would like to ask Mr. Roeding, who is a 

 representative in a way of the nurserymen of this county, this. A year 

 ago this coming spring I went for a grower in my county into another 

 county to inspect a nursery from which he had ordered trees. That 

 luirsery had been well cared for, and the owner of it had done his best 

 to clean up the pests. I spent a day in that nursery, and found two 

 or three trees only that were infested with one or two scales. I went 

 back home again and told the gentleman who was about to place his 

 order that in my judgment that he should not place it in that nursery. 

 I would like to ask Mr. Roeding if he does not think I was justified in 

 turning down that order upon finding in that nursery an infestation of 

 red scale ; I am simply using that as an illustration. Do the nursery- 

 men feel that we should make an absolute tree to tree inspection at the 

 point of shipment and turn down only those trees that we find infested, 

 or will they admit that if we find any trees in the shipment infested 

 we have the right, not only the right, but are we granted the privilege 

 as it were by the nurserymen, to turn down the whole shipment, and if 

 we find a nursery infested, even slightly, can't we quarantine with 

 justice against that whole nursery? 



Mr. Roeding. I do not feel that it is my duty to answer that ques- 

 tion. It is one of the problems that it is very difficult on which to 

 come to any exact determination. You refer particularly to red scale. 

 You might use the same argument against other pests. You might 

 use it against the flat-headed borer. Many nurseries in California 

 carrying deciduous stock do not have the flat-head borers. Whenever 



