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Iried it for a iminber of years — that it is safer t,> ^ive the seneral degree cf 

 bachelor of science to every man wlio c::iu)iletes any one of the courses of 

 studies. But we do folh>\v the susrsestioi! cf l'r,;fess;)r Storms. If it is desired 

 by the graduate, we will iudii ate under the iiuhie of the degree " in agriculture," 

 or " in engineering," or " in electrical engineering," hut that is all we do desig- 

 nate. We give the degree of bachelor oi sciences only, and indicate, as I say, 

 whether agriculture, or civil engineering, or electrical engineering. I do not con- 

 tenil that is the best way. l)ut of course it would bn scarcely proper for me to 

 undertake to discuss a paper and insist on something that we do not do 

 furselve.s. I rather think that is the safest thing to do at present. First of 

 ;ill, I think we certainly ought to insist that the degree should not be given to 

 .-.ny man until he has had that amount of training and culture which will at 

 iiny rate ecjual that he would get in the college of liberal arts. You can 

 .scarcely get tlie bachelor of arts man as yet to yield et]ual dignity to the 

 degree of bachelor of agriculture. The degree cf bachelor of science has come 

 to be about as well e.stablished as the old bachelor of arts, and therefore I 

 Ihink the safe plan is to give the degree of bachelor of science with or without 

 the inscription after the degree which would indicate the particular course. 



Mr. B.\ii.EY. The practice in the college of agriculture of Cornell University 

 is not one that connnends itself to me. I think the distinciion raised by Presi- 

 dent Storms between general academic degrees and professional degrees is a 

 ■very important one to keep in mind. We have professional degrees of civil 

 engineer, and mechanical engineer, and doctor of veterinary medicine in our 

 Institution, as in others, and they stand for training in certain professional lines 

 of work. In the university they give to the graduates of the college of agri- 

 culture the degree of B. S. A., hoping thereby to designate our belief that the 

 college cf agriculture is a professional college and is a college which leads to 

 liberal culture, giving one of the two coordinate degrees that stand for lil>eral 

 education, B. S. and B. A., Pi. .\. standing for the culmination of the work up 

 through the languages and B. S. for work up through the sciences. We differ- 

 entiate from the old B. S. by adding an A. B. to it, and the whole title is bachelor 

 of the science of agriculture, which I do not like. I should nmch prefer to liave 

 the degree bachelor of science in agriculture. There is a science of agriculture 

 as distinct from other sciences. I think the important point for us to discuss 

 and bear in mind is this: Is an agricultural course a professional course in the 

 :same sense as a legal or civil engineering course, or is it a course, as you say. 

 of the liberal art course, which leads to a bachelor of science degree (or to the 

 bachelor of arts degree), as distinguished from professional degrees? My own 

 feeling is that in our own case, at any rate, the agricultural course should be 

 considered to be a general culture course rather than a strictly professional 

 course; that we should give it the title and designation of bachelor of science. 

 I am very willing to add the designation cf the course of study, as, for example, 

 of bachelor of science in agriculture, and for all the different lines in which the 

 degree is earned. It has been suggested that an agricultural student on gradua- 

 tion should get the degree of agricultural engineer, which perhaps would be 

 abbreviated A E In other words, there is a tendency, I think, in some quarters 

 to regard agricultural work as strictly professional work. I should think that 

 nnwise. I should prefer to give a general B. S. degree with the subordinate 

 designation. 



Mr. Th.\ch. V»'e have been established for some time as a scientific school. 

 We have four or five courses in engineering, a course in agriculture and chem- 

 istry combined, one in chemistry, and one in mining engineering; in all, about 

 eight specific courses. We confer only one degree absolutely, and that is 

 bachelor of science. We regard that as specific and thoroughly well differeu- 



