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many of the juen incliuled in the estimate had comparatively little teaching, but 

 they do serve to suggest the importance of the question and the need for com- 

 paring views upon it. 



W. H. Jordan, of New York. If I could have the heads of the departments of 

 the New York State Station give a few lectures (from ten to twenty) a year I 

 would be glad to have them do it as a means of clarifying their views, looking 

 up literature, and that sort of thing. It makes a difference what kind of teach- 

 ing a station worker does as to whether it is an advantage to him or not. The 

 Liiost of the teaching done by college and station men in this country is the 

 teaching of fundamentals, and I believe it is nothing but a pleasant fallacy on 

 the part of those who wish to reenforce their teaching staff to maintain that 

 leaching the fundamentals and the drilling of classes for 50 per cent of the 

 time is an advantage to the investigator. I do not believe any such thing. I 

 believe in the differentiation of functions. What kind of a man do you want 

 for an investigator? A man absorbed in the things he is doing and who shall 

 not be turned aside and wearied by having to drill a class or do anything else 

 but hunt his subject and the truth. You know that teaching has to be done at 

 stated times, and the investigation must wait till the convenient day. That is 

 exactly what happens in actual practice. My answer to the question would 

 therefore be: A small amount of teaching of an advanced character along the 

 line of the specialties with which the station man is engaged and on which he 

 is thinking is all right. However, very much of teaching which we necessarily 

 do in our agricultural colleges to-day is not an advantage, but a disadvantage 

 to the investigator. 



C. D. Smith, of Michigan. I do not object so much to a subordinate doing 

 the teaching as I do the head of the, department, for the reason that if the head 

 (if a department of the station has also the management of a large teaching de- 

 partment of the college he can no longer do very good station work. The dan- 

 ger is, as experience has shov.n, that the demands of the teaching will gradually 

 encroach upon and crowd out the research work. The investigator should be 

 almost, if not quite, entirely free from the teaching work. My experience has 

 led me to believe most emphatically that we are not going to get the results 

 that we should get from the stations until this is done. The differentiation be- 

 tween the teaching and investigatitm must be complete. 



C. D. Woods, of Maine. I think it is easy for us to see the way we have come 

 into the present position. When the stations were first established compara- 

 tively few skilled men were obtainable. The stations started out on the plan 

 of the college, with a great many dejjartments in charge of young men who had 

 their reputations to make. The result has been that we very materially in- 

 creased the station pay roll until it reached a point where it was impossible 

 for the station alone to keep all the men required and give them the amount of 

 money they ought to have or could get elsewhere. So it has come about that 

 this division of men between the station and the college has perhaps increased 

 in the later years. With a small incTcase of appropriation for the station it 

 would be possible to solve this problem, and in the effort to do this I think we 

 will have the help of the college men. 



I thoroughly believe that a station man ought not to be a dual man. I wish 

 that in our own experiment station we did not have a single man connected with 

 the station who had routine instruction to do. Advanced instruction a few hours 

 in the course of the year, requiring the preparation of ten, twelve, or twenty 

 lectures for the students, would, in my opinion, lie lielpful. but any drudgery 

 of teaching for a station officer I am very sure is a detriment to the station work. 



C. F. CuRTiss, of Iowa. I believe that the stations in many instances, and 



