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even, 1 will say, a majority of instances, are approaching a better basis of ad- 

 justment of the work between the (•ollege and the station. I do not thinlv that 

 we can readily or in the near future attain a position where we can entirely 

 divorce the college and station work in the heads of departments. I believe that 

 the head of the department ought to direct the investigation work along his line 

 at least in an advisory way, even though he does not devote any of his time to 

 the details of that work or to the management of it. I think if he is a teacher 

 and giving his time to the college side of the work he ought to give enough of 

 his time to the station work to direct its course. 



I am entirely convinced of the desirability of investigators doing investigat- 

 ing work alone or exckisively. so largely as it may be possible, and I think that 

 the tendency generally is to\\ard a better adjustment. In our own station, for 

 instance, we have now established the work of two departments on such a basis 

 that the men in charge of the station work give no instruction except to grad- 

 uate students. These men will devote their time exclusively to the research and 

 experiment station work, except in case of graduate students that may elect to 

 take work in that department. In other departments we have an arrangement 

 by which the head of the department is considered and regarded as primarily a 

 college man, and receives the greater part — practically all — of his salary from 

 the college, and has assistants who receive their salary altogether from the 

 station, devoting their time altogether to station work. I think, as was sug- 

 gested by Director Woods, that when the stations have more means to devote 

 to this work they will be able to employ men exclusively for research work, and 

 those men will of cour.se be under the direction of the head of the department. 

 So that gradually, as we enlarge our work and as we are able to provide better 

 facilities for it, we are arriving at a better basis, although there is still very 

 much to be done in the adjustment of work. 



N. S. Mayo. It seems to me that this subject has been treated so far 

 entirely from the standpoint of the station investigator pure and simple. There 

 is a phase of the work that I have found of an advantage in dealing with the 

 more elementary students in classes, and that is the training which it gives 

 to the worker in bringing his scientific work to the level of the common man, 

 and I believe this is an important training. A good portion of our work is for 

 the common farmer, and it is important that we should bring it to his level, and 

 I believe that in bringing our work to the elementary classes we do get a 

 valuable training along that lin-^. The greatest obstacle that I have found in 

 teaching is the amount of energy which it necessarily requires. Two or three 

 hours of teaching as it ought to be done detracts very materially from the 

 energy a man can put into his investigation work. 



L. G. Carpenter, of Colorado. I suppose we can all imagine the ideal condi- 

 tion, but I presume none of us has yet attained it. We nearly all suffer from 

 limitations, both from place and finances. I am not at all sure, however, that 

 the stations as a whole have suffered by the connection with the colleges. If 

 we look at the work of an individual we may see in a great many cases that he 

 could do more and perhaps Itetter work if he were disassociated from teaching. 

 On the other hand, we have an aggregate to consider in some cases. I know 

 that in some of the stations, as in the one with which I am connected, the aid 

 from the colleges has been material and liberal, and has made possible the main- 

 tenance of a large number of departments that are giving more or less attention 

 to Investigation. There are undoubtedly some disadvantages in connection 

 with the teaching. One of the greatest is. I think, the fact that the investiga- 

 tion has to give way to routine hours ; investigation does not come at regular 

 times. A person can not do the highest kind of work for many hours a day. 

 To do productive and creative work, which is the best part of his work as an 



