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you soe a boy i^oing wroiij; .iiid yoii can not i^t't liiiu rij^lit. inako liiin leave 

 i-oUege. We cut off and trim down, so that it is hardly ever necessary tbat a 

 case should he dealt with in a formal way. and in this manner we try to build 

 up the correct public sentiment in the college. That is the main thing after all. 

 It is the correct public sentiment in the ci>llej,'e that dominates the coUej^e. I 

 would not give a copper cent to keep any boy from doing this and that and the 

 other simply by authority. But you want to get into him those fundamental 

 princiiiles and those high ideals of citizenship that will dominate the school, 

 and the school just governs itself, because there are certain ideals you have got 

 into the student body that the boy will not dare to offend against. When you 

 get the stiident body to that point, then any correct discipline will carry with it 

 the indorsement of the student body. 



I think the next thing essential to discipline is sympathy and opeimess on the 

 part of the college. The student body nuist always realize tbat those in au- 

 thority are not seeking to find this and tbat and the other, but that the presi- 

 dent of the college, if he is clothed with authority to administer discipline, is 

 in sympathy with the student body, in sympathy with the very puri)ose and 

 life of the student, and they nmst feel it at all times: and in order to do that 

 the president must deal with them only. Speaking from personal experience. 

 I never write home to a pai-ent criticising or finding fault with a student, but 

 have asked the student to come into the office and write home to his family. 

 The boy must know that you are giving him a chance ; and when you do that 

 and use common sense, I think there will be no trouble in working out har- 

 monious common sense in the way of discipline. 



E. B. Andrews, of Nebraska. There are two or three specific problems tbat 

 have, not been touched upon by either of my predecessors in the discussion, and 

 I will say a few words. 



There is first the very specific jirobleni of the college row. In the university 

 where I am they are rare, but they bother me. and I am frank to star,* that they 

 bother me more than almost anything else. I think tbey are a great pity, but 

 I do not as yet see just how to right them. Of course if a student were hurt. 

 I should urge him to prosecute, if I could get him to do so. the man who hurt 

 him. Sometimes a student refuses to do this. I should also use the authority 

 of the institution to find out who the guilty party was and discipline him still 

 further. But the knowledge that that can be done does not always helji t<) get 

 pi'oper relations or la-event improper relations for a short time between different 

 grades and different gangs of men. In the institution where I am now the 

 temper is better th.in any i)lace in which I ever served whei-e I could not have an 

 audience room in which 1 coidd get my students together. The largest place of 

 imi^irtance that we have would not hou.se more than one-half of the students of 

 the university. This makes exhortation of any kind exceedingly difficult and 

 brings about an inability to impress noble principles upon the student body, 

 and in the meantime our discipline troubles me at just that point. The best 

 men in the university sometimes forget themselves and engage in class scraps. 

 I do not believe the difficulties of one institution ought to be passed over to 

 another, or to be blamed onto another, but every time these difficulties arise 

 with us a few students recite the fact that other institutions are looking with 

 tolerance upon the cane rushes and similar things, if that is so. I nnist express 

 the opinion that I have expressed in these meetings many times, that I think it 

 is a great misfortune. I do not see how you c.in help a regrettable occurrence 

 of this sort if you do not frown on any sort of occurrence that is out of order. 

 I lay down the proi>osition exactly along the line of what has been said before 

 me this afternoon, that a thing that would lie looked upon as disreputable and 

 regrettable in the average town or city is to be looked upon as regrettable or 



