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mind. Then, there is a general practice of feeding straight corn, 

 but most of the results show that it is a losing game. It takes 

 about 500 pounds of corn to make 100 pounds of gain. When corn 

 is worth 60 cents, or more than one cent a pound, we are certainly 

 losing out. Most of us are helping to solve this question by hold- 

 ing our hogs and our corn until hogs become higher. 



The Iowa Experiment Station has been able to make pork 

 from corn only as low as $4.82 ; I don't know how they do it. In 

 Oklahoma, $8.00 was the cheapest we could make it. With meat- 

 meal and good tankage, Iowa has produced pork at $4.11, a rather 

 small margin. In Oklahoma, by using cowpea hay at $6.00 and 

 corn at 60 cents, we were able to make gains almost as cheaply as 

 with just tankage and corn. Tankage costs $35 per ton, and that 

 is a point which it seems to me to be of interest to practical men, 

 and the same is true also of soy beans. If we can use soy beans 

 and cowpeas and get almost as good returns as from packing-house 

 products, we ought to do it. 



Here is another point : Mr. Ellis reports in the year book of 

 1903, an experiment that shows that they made pork for $2.44 

 when they used skim-milk. I wonder if that would not be a solu- 

 tion to this problem — to feed with skim-milk. 



DISCUSSION. 



Q. How much corn do you feed to a steer to m.ake the gain 

 you speak of on the hogs following? 



Mr. Starr : That varies. Of course, as I said, we feed more 

 or less corn to hogs. It depends on environment. If we have 

 cattle on full feed of corn, it will not take as much extra corn for 

 the hogs. We never practice full feeding except in the winter 

 time. We don't full feed in the summer time. We feed about 

 14 pounds of shelled corn during the winter to the steer, and twc 

 hogs eat after that. 



Q. What style of trough do you have? 



Mr. Starr: Just the ordinary trough. 



Q. Are you very particular in regard to the type of hog yo^'. 

 buy? 



A. We are not particular in regard to the type, except that 

 v/e like lean hogs if we can get them; and of course, we consider 

 whether they are healthy or not. 



Q. That medicine — salsoda, copperas and Glauber's salt — 

 do you feed it on the ground? 



A. We have troughs to put it in. It has to be pulverized;, 



