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metabolically? 



TRAPANI: Off hand, I don't know. 



CAMPBELL: Doesn't the salt balance play an important part? 



WALKER: Do these animals lose weight, or eat more, Dr. 

 Berry? 



BERRY: They do not lose weight. They are in pretty good 

 metabolic balance as judged by weight. 



WALKER: They take in more protein to keep that balance? 



BERRY: Yes, but these are complicated relationships, 



TRAPANI: The main purpose here, for me, was to point out 

 how complex this really is. These experiments are really not 

 sufficient yet to make a complete story by any means, and the 

 next step planned is to study the immune response of adrenal- 

 ectomized animals for a considerable period, to elucidate the 

 relationship between the thyroid and the adrenal. Despite all 

 of your excellent experiments utilizing the cold and high alti- 

 tude chambers, I personally like mountain top laboratories better, 

 since I feel that chambers do offer certain disadvantages. 



MONCRIEF: Do your rabbits that you shave still shiver? 



TRAPANI: I never saw them shiver. 



MONCRIEF: Are they acclimatized to the cold? 



TRAPANI: They seem to be. Their body temperature was 

 not much different from room temperature controls, 



MONCRIEF: What evidence do you have of increased metabolism 

 of rabbits? 



TRAPANI: The metabolic rate, based on oxygen consumption 

 measurements done by open circuit metabolimetry was approxi- 



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