not so fine-grained as some other varieties. There were several spurious sorts. He had 

 known tlie Ribston Pippin sold for it. Mr. Bateham, of Ohio, had found it to ripen in De- 

 cember, and it proved of second-rate quality. H. E. Hooker considered it first-rate, but 

 not " best," and would like to see it further tested. J. J. Thomas remarked that his father 

 had told him that after removing the skin from this apple, he could scarcely distinguish it 

 from the Swaar. Mr. Saul had heard the same remark made. E. C. Frost remarked that 

 the Newark King was a totally distinct variety, ripening in the fall. It was decided to place 

 it on the list that promise well, under the name of King of Tompkins County. The Wagener, 

 at the suggestion of E. C. Frost, was also added to the list of fruits that promise well. 



The discussion oh grapes was quite animated, and, at one time, tliere was some danger of 

 a warm discussion of the Temperance Question, had not the President wisely ruled all such 

 remarks out of order. 



The Delaware Grape was highly recommended by some gentlemen. Jlr. Prince was of 

 opinion that it would prove to be the most delicious native grape, except, perhaps, the Scup- 

 pernong of the South. Dr. Grant had grown it for three years, and found it perfectly hardy. 

 Mr. Downing considered it one of the finest native grapes, and said that it was very hardy 

 with him. Dr. Brinekle saw it first in 1850, and thought it finer than any native grape that 

 he knew, but had doubts of its being a native ; Mr. Lougworth said it was not. Mr. Ernst 

 stated that Mr. Lougworth had been mistaken in regard to this grape, and was now satisfied 

 of its American origin. Mr. Hovey esteemed it an excellent fruit, and wished it placed upon 

 the list of varieties that promise well. Dr. Grant remarked that it was first discovered in 

 New Jersey, and was introduced into Ohio twenty-five or thirty years since. It was recom- 

 mended as promising well. 



The Rebecca Grape, Mr. Prince had no doubt, was a variety of the Chasselas family, and 

 thought that no such grape could be perfectly hardy. Mr. Reid said that it showed no in- 

 dication of an origin from the Chasselas, except some resemblance in the foliage. Dr. Grant 

 stated that it had been exposed at Hudson for the past three j'cars, remaining on an open 

 trellis during the winter, and had not sufifered in the least, while many other things which 

 were usually hardy had been destroyed. Mr. Downing had seen it for three years past, and 

 considered it perfectly hardy, though not a very strong grower. Mr. Reid said that it was 

 the only white native variety within his knowledge, and thought it desirable, if only for 

 that reason. Mr. Prince knew of another white variety, in Pennsylvania. It was recom- 

 mended as promising well. 



The President wished to direct attention to several seedlings lately originated at Phila- 

 delphia, and called on Dr. Brinekle for information in regard to them, who made some re- 

 marks iipon five sorts, viz : The Emily, Clara, Brinekle, Graham, and Raabe. Dr. B. stated 

 that the Raabe was raised from seed of the Catawba, the others from seeds of foreign sorts, 

 and that the Clara and Brinekle were, in particular, very fine. Mr. Buist observed that the 

 Graham and Raabe were evidently natives, but tliat the others were purely foreign in their 

 characteristics. Dr. Brincl^e was of opinion that all grapes originating in this country should 

 be considered natives, whether raised from native or foreign seed. Mr. Reid considered 

 grapes from foreign seed more liable to the attacks of mildew than those of native origin. 

 Mr. Hovey thought that seedlings from foreign grapes would not prove hardy without some 

 " native blood." Dr. Brinekle stated that neither of these varieties had ever been jirotected, 

 nor had sufl'ered in the least from the effects of winter ; but that of many other seedlings 

 originated at the same time, the rest had all been destroyed. The President thought that 

 the Emily must have some infusion of " native blood," as he had found it perfectly hardy. 



The Union Village Grape, Dr. Brinekle had heard from Mr. Longworth, was as large as the 

 Black Hamburg, and quite hardy, but that there had been a mistake made in the cuttings 

 which had been sent him, and he had had no fruit. Mr. Grant observed that it was a mon- 

 strous grower, the bunches quite large, the flavor sweet, and as good as the Isabella. Mr. 

 Ernst remarked that it was probably an accidental seedling, and he had seen it exhibited 

 before the Cincinnati Horticultural Society, when it was so fine as to be by many persons 

 mistaken for the Black Hamburg. He had not had much experience with it, but considered 

 it a fine table grape. It was vigorous, and a little earlier than the Catawba, but he thought 

 probably not well adapted for making wine. Mr. Grant said it was a little earlier than the 

 Isabella. The President had seen specimens which were exhibited at Boston, and considered 

 it very promising. Mr. Cabot thought it earlier than the Isabella, but not so early as the 

 Delaware. He had eaten it from a vine under glass, and considered the flavor very fine. 

 The cane was very stout. 



Of the Hartford Prolific, Mr. Hovey entertained a favorable opinion. Mr. Downing was 

 much pleased with it the first year, but he had since come to the conclusion that it was not 



