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intention to run this new jilant sit its fullest 

 capacity. With this great stock to market 

 it is fortunate that the general sales offices 

 of the company are located in Philadelphia, 

 which is perhaps the central city as regards 

 the great consuming districts. Geographically 

 considered, Philadelphia is an ideal location. 

 From Boston to Chicago and from Buffalo to 

 Washington, all of which territory is cov- 

 ered by men from Mr. Lloyd 's sale depart- 

 ment, the Quaker city is the central pivot. 



Personally ' ' Clem ' ' Lloyd, as he is known 

 to his intimates, does not impress one with 

 the dynamic euergy which his accomjjlish- 

 meuts disclose. He has inherited the calm 

 and quiet of his Quaker ancestry. He speaks 

 slowly, but the mind behind the words acts 

 with rapidity and sure judgment. 



He has recently built a delightful home in 

 Oak Lane, a Philadelphia suburb, where he 

 has been identified with the social life since 

 his marriage to ilay Carson Hansell in 1899. 

 One child, Robert Harold Lloyd, a lad of four 

 years, is his father's pride. Mr. Lloyd is 

 president of the Oak Lane Association and a 



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member of the Business Men's Club of that 

 place. The family attends the Reformed 

 church and Mr. Lloyd is on a number of its 

 committees. He has property interests both 

 in Philadelphia and Oak Lane and also 

 looks after his grandfather's estate. He is 

 interested with C. Boice in his new Boiee 

 Lumber Company, and is third vice president 

 of the National Hardwood Lumber Associa- 

 tion, making a variety of interests for so 

 young a man. 



The world has been called a hard one by 

 many an unsuccessful toiler, but in the long 

 run it will be found to be an eminently just 

 one. Men of ability and integrity are con- 

 stantly sought to fill its places of responsi- 

 bility and those who have these qualifications 

 are sure to find employment. It always has 

 been and always will be more difficult to find 

 talents for the places than places for the 

 talents. The H.'S.rdwood Record congratu- 

 lates the Cherry River Boom & LumVjer Com- 

 pany on finding just the right talents for the 

 difficult place of sales manager of its big 

 enterprise. 



Hardwood Record JMail Bag. 



[In this department it is proposed to reply 

 to such inquiries as reach tliis uflice from the 

 Hardwood Kecobd clientage as will be of enough 

 general interest to warrant publication. Every 

 patron of the paper is invited to use this de- 

 partment to the fullest extent, and an attempt 

 will be made to answer queries pertaining to all 

 matters of interest to the hardwood trade, in 

 a succinct and intelligent manner. 1 



Prices of Wagon Stock. 



Chicago, Dec. 1^. — Editor llAiinwuur) Rkouhd : 

 In regard to the matter of prices <ui wagon wood- 

 work, would stale we think it is a little early 

 to endeavor to fix any prices, but that preference 

 should be given lo the matter of organization 

 and divisions of the organization in order to 

 accnniplish delinite results. It would be well to 

 have one general organization, but those manu- 

 facturing the difTcrent kinds of dimension stock 

 should have Iheir own divisions. Manufacturers 

 of vehicle woodet&ck should be in a division by 

 themselves, and have their own officers, as the 

 conditions pertaining to the sale a.id niauufac- 

 tuie of wagon stuck would not be the same as 

 those pertaining to other Hues. We think the 

 steps you have taken are in Uie right direction, 

 but ?he matter should be bandied carofully from 

 now on and take all points such as we have 

 mentioned Into ci nslderation. We are also In- 

 clined to believe that this organization should 

 not include thos^e who are exclusive buyers of 

 dimension stock. It is well lo treat with these 

 people at the proper time and In an organized 

 way, but we do not think It would be of any 

 benefit In establishing th>.' organization. — Hous- 

 ■K)X & CfnTis, |iiT Kred A. Curtis. 



Mr. Curtis has had a good deal of expe- 

 rience in association work, notably in con- 

 nection with the Vehicle Woodstock Com- 

 pany, of whicli ho is secretary. Therefore, his 

 opinion should bear considerable weight. It 

 goes without saying that it is the intention 

 of the Hardwood DimenBion Association tn 

 put the matter of each department of dimen- 

 sion under the direct control of a competent 

 committee. In this waj- each division of the 

 trade will be intelligently and justly covered. 

 • — Editor. 



Regarding Dimension Stock. 



.V in-niiiincn. Kentucky concern writes, under 

 date of Dec. lo, as follows; 



Editor llAUDWooij Ueuuud ; If yuu will favor 

 u?. with Ihe names of a few of the larger manu- 

 lactureis of sawtd pattern stock and wagon 

 gearint'. such as Ik>uu<1s, lelloes. gearing, etc.. 

 the wi-itiM- will take the matter up Willi them 

 and try lo gel up interest in Ihe next ciinveu 

 tiou. 11 seems to US that, if jierhaps a dozen 

 ol the leading manufactiu-ers of this class of 

 material could get together and discuss these 

 mailers ol price, grades, etc., and then have 

 Ihe committee report and recommend the I'ub- 

 !i<-ation of all official price list, giving as near 

 as possiole the tizcs used by the general trade 

 and ail try to sell as near as possible to this 

 list, it would prove beneficial to the trade in 

 general. During the past month we quoted a 

 price of .¥1.85 per set f. o. b. cars on felloes, 

 which we thought as low as we conld possibly 

 sell them and make a profit ; the buyer .showed 

 evidence that he was buying the same article 

 at Sfi.'M on a freight rate but 4 cents higher 

 than ours. This experience goes to show the 

 vast difference in prices on this class of stock. 

 Of cour.se. we did not accept the prices offered 

 but held oul for Ihe ]>rices we asked, and it 

 ended in the b'lyer's placing an order with us, 

 hul a veai* ago we were just starting in this 

 business, and fcelore we got our eye teeth cut 

 we would no doulit iiave let the buyer set the 

 price and have tried to meet Ihe other fellow's. 



Now what we think is wanted is a quiet dis- 

 cussion among the larger manufacturers of this 

 class of stock. In settle the (luestion of costs, 

 losses by waste, ett*., and tlien wlien this con- 

 vention 'meets to prepai-c a list to sell by that 

 will givi^ the millman a profit, and let it be gen 

 erally known that this class of slock is selling 

 to tile same luyers al a variation of Iroin $ri 

 to Sin pel- lliousand feet. I. el the millman 

 make the pi-lce and base his list on what lum 

 her is v.'onh plus his expense for loss in waste 

 and manufaiturlng. There will probably be a 

 iuiwl from the wagon niaiiul'acturer, and a 

 ihreat to put In his own mill, but he will not 

 do It. at least not unless the price asked hy the 

 millmen becomes ex(-rbitant, for ilie simple rea- 

 son that it cosis llie wagon nianulacturer more 

 lo run his own mills and operate lliau to buy 

 Ihe stock, even if the price be gi-eally increased. 

 The writer knows of an attemiM of this kind 

 right in his own territory, and would be will 

 Ing to take for his profit Ihe loss thai was 

 chargeil lo this mill, and Ibis is not an excep 

 llonal case. 'the mill was I'ledlled with the 

 stock at Ihe same prices wi^ were gelling and 

 we made some money: but if we could have luid 

 added to oui profit Ihe loss per thousand Ibis 

 mill sustained we would nave wanleil notlilng 

 better In the line of sawmill work than lulling 

 dimcnshtn slock. 



Company, 



It is very gratifying to note the wide- 

 spread intereft being taken in llic work of 



the new Hardwood Dimension Association. If 

 manufacturers of the above named material 

 will forward tlicir names to this office they 

 will be put ill t<nich with the writer of this 

 letter. — Editoi;. 

 Addresses of Buyers of Gun Stocks Wanted. 



POBT Clinton, O.. Dec. 16. — Editor Hakdwood 

 Kecoud : I handle upwards of 2.000. UOO feet of 

 old-fashioned Ohio black walnut annually, in 

 the form of waney board timber and squares tor 

 expiirt. Can you supply me with a list of buyers 

 of black walnut gun stocks'.' I should he pleased 

 to negociale with reliable concerns to supply sev- 

 eral iiund'-ed ihousand each year, either in the 

 form of iiun stock blanks or finished stocks. Any 

 infoi-niittion you can get me on this sub.iect will 

 be highly appreciated. 



The Hardwood Record will he glad to re- 

 ceive the addresses of persons interested in 

 the purchase of this material, and on receipt 

 will supply to them the address of the eor- 

 ri'spondcnt. — Editor. 



Information About Hickory Wanted. 



I5KIGHT0N, Tenn., Dec. 15. — Editor Hardwood 

 Ukcord ; We vA'ould like to have information as 

 to what to cut. how to handle and where to 

 market the cut of a lot of hickoiv logs. 12 feet S 

 inches long. 14 to 30 inches in diameter. This 

 information or where to get it through the medium 

 of your much appreciated journal will be thank- 

 fully received. Company. 



Will some of our readers familiar with the 

 ni.i.nufacture or use of hickory suggest some 

 available dimension stock into which hickory 

 logs of the length named can be advantage- 

 ously and profitably manufactured? Anyone 

 interested can have this correspondent's name 

 ;iiid address upon application. — Kuitor. 



Thinks He Knows the Owner. 

 Ci EVKI.ANU, O., Dee. 12. — Editoi Hardwood 

 HEi,'o;in: I have just noticed the pocket expense 

 aecoiinl which was picked up a few days a.go on 

 the fioor of your office, and published in this 

 week's Uecokd. I think the handwriting looks 

 very much like that of .1. 11. 1'. Smith of I'ark- 

 ersburg, W. Va.. who called me up by long dis- 

 tanfc piione from Detroit a lew days ago and 

 advised ne he uas going to Chicago, and I think 

 ;f you will investigate the matter you will find 

 that it belongs to the aforesaid Smith. Yours 



trulv, . 



It' our correspondent is correct in his de- 

 iluilioiis, .\lr. Siiiitli can have the original of 

 the ex|icnse account (Ui ap[ilication. — Editor. 



' ' Subscriber. ' ' 



CixciNNATi, (>., Dec. 14. — Editor Hakdwood 

 ItEOuCD : Will you kindly answer through your 

 edition of Dec. 25, about what percentage of 

 lirsts and seconds there will he In a carload ot 

 maple, that is log run, with all Ihe mill culls 

 out and all the firsts and seconds In'^ This docs 

 not refer to any particular lumberman's grade, 

 but Ihe infornialion asked is general. 



.\ Sl'llSClUllKK. 



It' the writer ut' tlic above will supply his 

 address as an evidence of good faith (not for 

 publication) his inquiry will be promptly an- 

 swered. — Kditok. 



Wants Ash Squares. 



I'ini..\i>!;i.fii lA. Ta.. Dec. 15. lOdilor IIakii- 

 WDuD ItEciiuD ; Can you tell us of a good place 

 lo buy ash sipmres suitable for making fork 

 handles'; Lt',MiiEii CoMI'AXV. 



If manul'.'icturcrs of this sort of dimension 

 stock will send their addresses to the Hard- 

 wood Kkcord, the name of the above inquirer 

 will be supplied ilicrii. -Kditok. 



