HARDWOOD RECORD 



necessity of this organization, or at least of 

 some organization that will carry this worii 

 along. It really started the movement, and 

 worlied up the interest that is now being shown 

 In it. I hope that interest will continue, and 



FLOYD DAY, SWANNDAY Ll'.MUliU COM- 

 PANY, CLAY CITY', KY. 



that we will here form a basis for doing some- 

 thing beneficial. If there are any suggestions 

 to be made on this subject, I would like to have 

 them now. Let us have a discussion of the 

 whole proposition, until a little later when we 

 will appoint committees on just what we want 

 to cov*'r. 



Cost of Membership in Hardwood Manufac- 

 tiuers' Association. 



Mr. I'«att : I think that those interested 

 would possibly like to know if we affiliated 

 tins association with the liardwood Manu- 

 facturers' Association, what the cost is going 

 to be. I am not famil'ar with its work at all, 

 and would like some member of that associa- 

 tion to explain its cost and Its benefits. 



Mr. Davis : I will say that the cost of the 

 Hardwood Manufacturers' Association is a min- 

 imum of $3 a month, or $36 a year, and above 



LEWIS IiOSTEH, SMf'ItKTAUY II. .M. 

 V. 8., COLCMBUS, O. 



A. OF 



that Is based on production, at 5 cents jigr M — 

 720,000 feet would thus cover the minlmtun, and 

 1,000,000 feet would be iMi. I think wc shonid 

 get at bow much stock Is produced liy the mem- 

 bership present. I have some blank cards here 



which call for tlie name, address and kind of 

 wood manufactured, the amount of dimension 

 stock, and the amount of rough lumber. We 

 want to arrive at the relative cost of a man's 

 output which goes into dimension stock. I sup- 

 pose many here are not making any dimension 

 stock, but we would like to know your entire 

 output anyhow, riease be just as careful as 

 possible in your estimates of production. 



Mr. Webster : I presume many here are in 

 the same fix we are. I'p to three years ago we 

 cut a good deal of No. 2 common plain oak 

 dimension stock. But dimension stock has not 

 advanced to any extent, although plain oak 

 has. Today we are not putting out a quarter 

 of the dimension stock we were two years 

 ago, because it does not pay us to do so. We 

 can get more money out of our plain oak by 

 selling it than we can by putting it into dimen- 

 sion stock, not counting anything for the cost 

 of producing dimension. If we could get w/hat 

 dimension stock is worth we would probably 

 produce three times as much as we do at 

 present. 



Committee on President's Address Ap- 

 pointed. 



Mr. Doster : I would like to make a motion 

 that a committee of three be appointed to re- 

 port on the president's address. Being duly 

 seconded and carried, the chair appointed J. S. 

 Oaretson. F. W. Webster and Lewis Doster to 

 act upon that committee. 



Mr. Davis : I have here some reports made 

 by the committee of the Hardwood Manufac- 

 turers' Association at the recent meeting in 

 Louisville, Ky.. suggesting values which should 

 be put on different items of dimension stock. I 

 would like to have these passed about and have 

 the members look them over and see if they 

 agree with our ideas. 



Mr. Davis : The committee on the presi- 

 dent's address not being ready to report Just 

 yet. I am going to ask Mr. Doster to talk to us 

 a little while about the Hardwood Manufac- 

 turers' Association, of which he is .secretary. I 

 would state that I believe it a very necessary 

 move to make some definite arrangement with 

 the Manufacturers' association to take over our 

 work and carry it on, because it will take more 

 money and more time than our separate organl 

 zation can stand. Another thing, the members 

 of this dimension stock association are largely 

 members of the Hardwood Manufacturers' Asso- 

 ciation, and they are not going to carry two 

 associations, pay the assessments, and devote 

 their time to two of them. They will cer- 

 tainly draw out of the Manufacturers' associa- 

 tion and come into ours, or they will draw out 

 of ours and stay w'ith that one. >\'e would like 

 to hear from Mr. Doster. 



Lewis Doster Talks. 



Mr. Doster : I came here as a representative 

 of the Hardwood Manufacturers' Association of 

 the United Stales, and without any authority, 

 of course, to act as to their future considera- 

 tion, but we have a committee representing our 

 association here at this time, from whom we 

 expect to receive a report. Mr. Davis, Mr. Per- 

 rine and Mr. Clark, of this committee, are here. 

 I represent the executive board, and wish to 

 state that it will meet in Cincinnati on Satur- 

 day, Feb. 24, and any action taken by this 

 crganlzatlon will be given consideration us to 

 whether any amalgamation can be elTectcd. I 

 am sure our Interests are .so closely allied that 

 some plan can be outlined, and I would very 

 gladly report favorably on it to the executive 

 board. For the benefit of the makers of dimen- 

 sion material who have never heard what our 

 association can do for them, I would like to 

 make some explanation. 



Wc organized In 1902. and now rei>resent 

 an output of over one billion feet of hardwood 

 lumber. The organization has for Its ol)Jert8 the 

 eslnbllshment of uniform grades, and the pro- 

 curing of such Information as will be of ben- 



efit to its members. As stated in the con- 

 stitution and fay-laws, they are as follows : 

 Objects. 

 "The object of this association shall be to 

 secure a full understanding of the conditions 



C. M. CI.AHK. S\VA.\.\ HAY I.r.MUKl! IDM- 

 PA.VY, CLAY CITY. KY. 



surrounding the lumber market in the territory 

 covered by this association, the estabiisliment 

 of uniform grades for the inspection of lumber 

 as the only legitimate basis for more nearly 

 uniform prices : to establish vmiform customs 

 ;ind tisages among manufacturers of lumber ; to 

 procure and furnish to its members such infor- 

 mation as may tend to protect them against 

 unbusinesslike methods of those with whom they 

 deal, and such other information as may be 

 for the benefit of the members of the associa- 

 tion : and to propose and carry out such other 

 measures as may be deemed for the welfare 

 and in the interest of the manufacturers of 

 lumber, who shall be members of this associa- 

 tion." 



Our membership Is composed strictly of man- 

 ufacturers — men who own timljei-. liave saw- 



W. A. .MI. KAN. Wniin MOSAIC FLOORINQ 

 COMPANY, MOW ALBANY, IND. 



mills, and ship In carloa<l lots. Their Interests 

 arc more In shipping than In buying lumber. 



Again, our association covers the entire ter- 

 ritory, every class of hardwood producer being 

 prolecled ond every department run by people 



