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who manufactare that class of wood. We pro- 

 mulgate price lists for the benclit of the mem- 

 bers. These lists are sent all over the con- 

 suming market, largely establishing the trend of 

 values for production. \Ye also have grading 



VAN B. PERRINE. PERKIXE-ARMSITEONG 

 COMPANY, FT. WAYNE, IND. 



rules for hardwood at the present time. We 

 have more than 80,000 copies now in the hands 

 of consumers and inspectors, and we are still 

 using every elfort to put these rules into the 

 hands of the people and teach them to grade 

 lumber correctly. The grading rules and the 

 price lists are in the hands of committees cov- 

 ering the woods they produce, and a poplar man, 

 for instance, would not be found on the gum 

 committee, etc. 



We "have a bureau of inspection, also. In the 

 past all hardwood difficulties have been settled 

 at the point of consumption. With our system, 

 we educate the sawmill man by showing him 

 how to grade and manufacture his lumber at his 

 mill correctly, thereby preventing difficulties at 

 New Yorli, Boston, or other distant points, sav- 

 ing him time and money when lumber is shipped 

 into these markets that is not correctly manu- 



JAS. BUCKLEY, BROOKVILLE, IND. 



factured. Again, complaints are made that are 

 unjust : we use every means at our command to 

 expose unjust claims, and every possible means 

 to adjust differences between buyer and con- 

 sumer. Our inspectors do not make any mone- 



tary settlement, but merely a report on the 

 lumber which they find at destination. We also 

 issue commercial reports showing the integrity 

 of buyers. Some firms use fair and others un- 

 fair methods, and we try to keep our members 

 constantly informed as to who indulge in these 

 unfair methods. The result is that many who 

 in the past employed them now have to respect 

 our bureau. 



We also issue general information reports by 

 canvasses of the different sawmill operations 

 showing stocks on hand from week to week, and 

 through that system we place members in com- 

 municatiou with each other who can supply 

 their wants for stock which they do not find 

 a ready sale for elsewhere, thus procuring mar- 

 kets from time to time for manufacturers who 

 have any sort of stock that they find it hard 

 to move. 



AH this work is based on dues of 5 cents per 

 M. feet shipped, or a minimum of $36 per year. 

 In the past, through our efforts, we have given 

 members ?2 a thousand benefit from our work 

 for the sum of 5 cents per M. We are now 

 placing inspectors at different points throughout 

 the United States for the purpose of educating 

 the mill men in the grading of their lumber 

 along uniform lines. 



Any action taken today that would tend to 

 draw this element of hardwood dimension people 

 into the association I would be only too glad to 

 present fully before the executive board, and I 

 feel sure that you want to become affiliated with 

 some good means of assisting dimension pro- 

 duction. If an organization is made which will 

 take in that element who are interested in the 

 work, but who cannot always get together at 

 different conventions, I believe they will be 

 glad to fall into line and act accordingly. 



Biscussion on Proposed Affiliation. 



Mr. Davis : I would like to have a fuller ex- 

 pression from others who are members of the 

 Hardwood Manufacturers' Association. I would 

 like to know if they consider it better to main- 

 tain a separate organization. 



.Mr. Garetson : Our firm was among the first 

 to join the Hardwood Manufacturers' Associa- 

 tion. It is true that the class of lumber we 

 have made has not come to any extent under 

 the benefits that are usually derived from such 

 cssociation. M'e are making a great deal of car 

 stock and lumber from low grade logs, but we 

 also manufacture quarter-sawed and plain oak, 

 and in all our dealings we have been governed 

 largely by the prices that have been fixed at 

 the different meetings. We have found it very 

 beneficial indeed. We have also derived much 

 benefit from the credit reports. You know a 

 great many jobbers will not treat the sawmill 

 man fair if they can get around it. Undesir- 

 able buyers have been reported upon ; their 

 method is to send out a letter asking whether 

 a firm has had dealings with a certain buyer 

 and their experiences, and if we ask for a 

 special report regarding a buyer, they can then 

 give us what the trade in general has reported, 

 and in that way we have avoided a great deal 

 of trouble. We have also been benefited at 

 times when we were short of stock, by receiving 

 their lists telling where it might be located. 

 Dimension stock seems to me to run largely 

 along the same lines as other hardwood, and it 

 would take a long time and hard work to get 

 as good an organization and to do as efficient 

 work as would be accomplished if we affiliated 

 with the Hardwood Manufacturers' Association. 

 I am in favor of it, and I really think it would 

 be much better for us all to join with them. 



Mr. Foot : I think I am the only represen- 

 tative from Mississippi. I read the words of 

 welcome with a great deal of pleasure. It has 

 been forty-five years since I have met with 

 my northern brethren, and then it was when 

 one hundred of us joined the Federal army to 

 help save our blessed country. It gives me 

 great pleasure indeed to be here. I want to 



say that I am young in this business. I don't 

 know my A B C's, but it seems to me that the 

 Manufacturers' Association is the wagon for us 

 to get into. They are organized ; they are 

 doing great work ; it is no more work for them 



H. E. BACON. BACON-NOLAN HARDWOOD 

 COMPANY, MEMPHIS, TENN. 



to look after the dimension part ; they are a 

 powerful body, and this one is disintegrated as 

 it were. I think we will get among good people 

 when we get in with them. As for myself I 

 want to join with Brother Doster ; I want to 

 get into that wagon if I have to climb in over 

 the wheels. 



Mr. Davis : We will certainly be glad to take 

 Mr. Foot into the dimension association, but I 

 would much rather take him into the Manu- 

 facturers' Association. I hope he won't wait so 

 many more years to meet with us again. 



Mr. Webster : I am probably the only one 

 here from my part of Alabama. While we are 

 not members of the Hardwood Manufacturers' 

 Association, we recognize that they are doing 

 a great work ; they have spent a lot of money 

 and are well organized and have benefited their 

 members and others to a great extent, and I 



C. I. HOYT, C. I. HOYT & CO., PEKIN, IND. 



think the dimension people can best carry out 

 their ends through the Manufacturers' associa- 

 tion than in any other way. 



Mr. Davis : Mr. Webster cuts a great deal of 

 furniture stock. I>imension stock has not gone 



