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HARDWOOD RECORD 



Forest growth to consist of the light weight 

 wood that will not go in the above grades, and 

 will admit of small bird-pecks, blacl; streaks 

 and small knots : will admit any rims that will 

 bend to a perfect circle without breaking. 



PRICES based on Ohio River points taking 

 a 10 cent rate to Chicago and a 19 cent rate 

 to New Tork City. 



Rim Strips. 



Black 

 Second hick- Korest 



growth. ory. growth. 



1V4". 1%". 1%" a°<i 



1%'' $110 $70 555 



1%". 1%" and 2" 133 75 Go 



-2H" and 2Vi," loO 80 70 



Standard lengths of these rim strips shall be 

 5' 6", 6'. 6' 6". 7', 7' 6", S' and 8' 6", not to 

 exceed 10 per cent of 5' 6". 

 Axle caps and single- 

 trees, admitting same de- 

 fects as the same grade 



of rims S 45 $60 SSo 



Implement Stock. 

 Double-trees, single-trees and neck-yokes 

 for agricultural work will admit bird- 

 pecks, streaks, solid knots that will not 



impair the strength of the piece $;!2.50 



Forest growth shaft strips S^'Un 



Forest growth poles Znon 



J'orest growth tongues 80.00 



Respectfully submitted, 



C. I. HOTT, 



E. StcbMj 



G. E. Brbecb, 



HOWELI, TaYLORj 

 O. G. FiTZGEHiLD, 



L. Foot, 

 Fkaxk F. Fee. 

 Mr. Davis : Gentlemen you have heard the 

 report of the committee. What will you do 

 with It? 



Mr. Fee : I move we adopt the report of the 

 committee as read. 



Seconded by Mr. Foot and carried. 

 Mr. Davis : Ail the committees have now 

 reported, excepting those on Poplar and Bass- 

 wood, and Gum. These two are going to be 

 continued and will look up the situation in 

 better shape, reporting on the same to the 

 Executive Board formed yesterday at their 

 monthly meetings which will be held until the 

 amalgamation is mode with the Hardwood 

 Manufacturers' Association, and in case it Is 

 not made will report to the Executive Board, 

 which will handle the information according 

 to the circumstances then existing. 



Mr. Kampf: I presume you are all glad to 

 be here today and I know that much good has 

 come from this meeting. There is no victory 

 ■without battles, and I have seen a good many 

 battles fought here today which have been suc- 

 ccEsfulIy terminated. I move that we extend 

 a vote of thanks to the offlcers of the asso- 

 ciation for their efficient work, and to the lum- 

 ber newspapers. 



Seconded and carried. 



Hickory and Hickory Reforestation. 

 Mr. Davis : On behalf ot myself and the 

 other members who have perhaps had more 

 to do with It than I, T desire to say that I 

 have been moved not altogether by a philan- 

 thropic spirit, but also for my own good, and 

 I believe this work will result In good to all 

 ot us. It Is time for the lumbermen to work 

 up every scrap of their lumber that they can 

 possibly put upon the market. The more waste 

 or low-grade stulT we can use the longer will 

 our timber propositions last. There Is no dan- 

 ger ot overproduction. The timber Is paaslng 

 while the demand Is Increasing. It should be 

 used with the greatest economy, and right here 

 I would say that the United States at this time 

 Is engaged In Inquiry, especially on the subject 

 ot hickory. 1 believe that the National Lumber 

 Manufacturers' Association appointed a com- 

 mittee to meet with a committee appointed by 

 the Forestry Service ot the United States De- 

 partment of Agriculture, to confer on the mat- 

 ter of hickory, and I do not know but that It 

 would be a good Idea tor this convention to 



appoint a committee to act with them as a sort 

 of advisory body. If anyone here is familiar 

 with that line of work I would like to hear from 

 him. 



C. S. Bacon : This dimension business has 

 been a hobby with me. I first took the matter 

 up with Mr. Gibson. We thrashed it over sev- 

 eral times, and while these things figure out 

 very nicely on paper, they don't figure out so 

 well with the cant-hook as with the pencil. 

 We thought something ought to he done to get 

 men together and put the business on a profit- 

 able basis, and this Is the result. I am 

 sure I have had a great deal of satisfaction out 

 of the meetings. And I hope we will also get 

 some profit out of them. It is probable that 

 it will take some time to get this association 

 running smoothly. There have been too. many 

 conflicting interests to be harmonized right from 

 the start. I do not know how long it will take 

 to effect this unity, but when we do get the 

 thing running smoothi.v, as I know we surely 

 will, I think it will be very satisfactory to 

 those who have given their support to this as- 

 sociation work. In order to give each of these 

 niemi:ers the information which it is very nec- 

 essary that they have, there should be some 

 ways and means provided to get our different 

 price lists into the hands of those who have 

 not attended the association meeting, as It Is 

 very necessary for us to ha%'e them with us 

 and keep them in line. It is not the larger 

 manufacturers who are making the low prices ; 

 it is the smaller men who do not know what 

 to ask for their stock. I would suggest that 

 this matter be given particular attention, be- 

 cause it is the information that they must have. 

 Mr. Breece ; It seems to me that we could 

 get out a pamphlet showing the price lists and 

 our grades, and supply it to the people who are 

 present here, and also mail it broadcast over 

 the country. Make all the sawmill men ac- 

 quainted with what we have done here, our 

 grades and our prices. 



Mr. Gibson : I believe you are going to get 

 all the publicity you need through the medium 

 ot the lumber press. I know the H.vrdwood 

 Record has collated a list ot upwards of 300 

 people, who are producers of dimension, and I 

 certainly will reach all these people with the 

 uext issue and think the lumber newspapers 

 generally will carry a pretty full report of this 

 meeting. I do not believe the pamphlet scheme 

 will therefore be necessary. 



Mr. Doster : The Hardwood Manufacturers' 

 Association will take care of the advertising 

 ot prices if the amalgamation is made. They 

 will always see that they are put into the 

 hands of everyone interested. 



Mr. Gibson : In regard to the Forestry Ser- 

 vice In its work of assisting the lumber trade 

 in their investigations which have a particular 

 and pertinent interest to the lumber trade, I 

 think one of the most Important things Is the 

 attempt to analyze for us hickory conditions. 

 This is a wood for which, at least, in many 

 instances no substitute has yet been found. 

 The Forestry Service Is undertaking to dem- 

 onstrate that It is a practicable proposition to 

 regrow hickory. Those fellows at Wasiilngton 

 are young and perhaps theoretical, but It is 

 their anililtion to know all there is to know- 

 about it and put the information into con- 

 crete form and give it over to you. I am going 

 to take the liberty to make a motion that a 

 consulting committee be appointed by the chair 

 to confer at the request ot this Forestry Ser- 

 vice on the subject of hickory and hickory 

 growth. 



.Seconded and carried. 



Mr. Fee : As one ot the older members ot 

 the Hardwood Manufacturers' Association I 

 want to say a word relative to their work and 

 Its success. I understand that you arc going 

 to afllllate with that association. I believe you 

 will prove a worthy child of an honorable 

 Iinrent. When we started that association, we 



had as many contentions as we have had here 

 on prices ; the men selling oak at ?40 conflicted 

 with the men who were getting $60. But, 

 eventually, the men who got ?60 governed 

 prices. So I say that the Hardwood Manufac- 

 turers' Association has done a great deal ot 

 missionary work in going out and getting in the 

 smaller producers, and showing them that they 

 can just as well make money as lose it. 

 Committee to Confer with Forest Service. 



Mr, Davis : I have appointed the following 

 committee to consult with the Forest Service 

 on the subject of hickory and hickory refores- 

 tation : Henry H. Gibson, Frank F. Fee, C. I. 

 Hoyt, Jr., Geo. E. Breece. 



Mr. Gibson : I would like to say a word 

 generally about association work and espe- 

 cially in relation to the hardwood industry. It 

 is my opinion that the hardwood men are still 

 learning their trade. As compared with the 

 people who have made vast sums of money 

 in the lumber industry, they are still at the 

 tail end of the procession. The building woods 

 people learned the value of association work long 

 before the hardwood men, and they learned It 

 so well that it was not safe to let off a shotgun 

 in tlie states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Min- 

 nesota, without danger ot hitting a millionaire. 

 The first time In the history of the trade, the 

 hardwood men have made any money out of 

 the business is since associations have been or- 

 ganized. I believe it is worth thinking about 

 and staying with. 



On motion, duly seconded, the meeting ad- 

 journed sine die. 



Attendance. 



('has. S. Bacon, Bacon Lumber Co., Grand 

 Rapids, Mich. 



C. B. Bannister, Muncie Wheel & Jobbing 

 Co., Muncie, Ind. 



G. E. Breece, W. Va. Timber Co., Charles- 

 ton, W. Va. 



J. C. Burchette. Hardwood Manufacturers' 

 Association, Columbus, O. 



Wm. Burke, Crawford, McGregor & Canby 

 Co.. Dayton, O. 



C. M. Clark, Swann-Day Lumber Co., Clay 

 City, Ky. 



J. S. Coleman, Royer Wheel Co., Cincinnati, 

 O. 



Edward L. Davis, E. L. Davis & Co., Louis- 

 ville, Ky. 



Floyd Day, Swanu-Day Lumber Co., Clay 

 City, Ky. 



Lewis Doster, Secretary Hardwood Rlanutac- 

 turers' Association, Columbus, O. 



O. G. Fitzgerald, O. G. Fitzgerald & Son, 

 Staunton, Tenn. 



L. Foot, Canton Lumber Co., Canton, Miss. 



H. M. Foulk, J. L. Clark. Oshkosh. Wis. 



.L B. Galloway, J. B. Galloway Co., Claren- 

 don, Ark. 



J. S. Garetson, Garetson-Greason Lumber Co., 

 St. Louis. Mo. 



H. H. Gibson, editor Hardwood Record, Chi- 

 cago, 111. 



A. E. Gordon, Hardwood Record, Chicago, 

 Hi. 



John .\. Graham, Jno. A. Graham & Co., 

 Lexington, Ky. 



K. C. Groesbcck, the Stearns Company, Cin- 

 cinnati, 0. 



John W. Hcrron, Jr., Royer Wheel Co., Cin- 

 cinnati, O. 



C. I. Hoyt, C. I. Hoyt & Co., Pekln, Ind, 



M. L. Heaton, Hardwood Manufacturers' As- 

 sociation, Columbus, O. 



Albert R. Kampf, .Mlicrt R. Kampf, Louis- 

 ville, Ky. 



J. J. Llnehan. I.lnelian Lumber Co., Pitts- 

 burg, Pa. 



T. W. McLauglilin, McLaughlin Lumber Co., 

 Kubank, Ky. 



W. A. McLean, Wood-Mosaic Flooring Co., 

 New Albany, Ind. 



W. A. Moultiin, Cillls & Moulton, CblcagO, 

 III. 



