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BARKSDALE-KELLOUG LIMBEK 



COMPANY 



J. S. GAUETSON. ST. LOUIS. Mo.. (iARETSiiN- 

 GREASON LIMBER COMPANY 



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J. E. Det'ebaugh Memorial. We have made an arrangeiiK-nt 

 with reference to that and we ask further time to mal^e a re- 

 port. Our committee has had a meeting. We are to take it up 

 in connection with the other associations. We have attendea a 

 special committee meeting and conferred with them. 



Mr. Townsend: I think probably the reason that we had so 

 much trouble getting the people together this morning was be 

 (:auso we did not meet at the schedule time. It does seem to 

 me that if we want to get along well in this convention 

 work we ought to run on schedule time. We ad.journed to meet 

 at 10:30 and were not ready to meet until nearly 12 o'clock. It 

 does seem to me that we will hardly be able to hold these people 

 here till you get through. So why not adjourn to meet at a spe 

 cific time and then meet at that time? Will you come back, 

 gentlemen, at three o'clock if I make a motion and it carries' 



Vice-President Fee: Make it :^:30. We will need all the 

 time. 



On motion the convention a<ljourned accordingly to meet at 

 2:30 p. m. 



CLOSING SESSION, FEBRUARY 1 



The convention met pursuant to recess. I'resideut (.'arricv in the 

 chair, Secretary Doster recording. 



President Carrier: We will now have reports from the differ- 

 eut committees. Mr. Doster will announce the committees. 



Secretary Doster: Committee on Transportation, W. K, We:ik 

 ley, chairman. Is Mr. Weakley in the room? 



Mr. Mayhew: Mr. Weakley has just left for home. Who is 

 llic next man on that committee? 



.\Ir. Vansant: I move that that committee have further time 

 to report and they can report to the Executive Board at any 

 time that they have a report of importance to take up. 



Motion seconded and carried. 



Secretary Doster: Committee on Standard Weights of Hard 

 wood Lumber. AV. K. Delauey, chairman. 



Report of Committee on Standard Weights 



-Mr. Delauey: 1 just want to call your attention to a recent 

 decision of the Interstate Couimerce Commission in the case of 

 William Noble versus the Detroit & Toledo Short Line, decided 

 ou December 5. This decision holds that no estimated weights 

 will be taken at all against a railroad, so that all the work of 

 this committee so far is wasted, unless we are able to do some- 

 thing to meet this decision. 1 understand that a number of 

 claims have been returned since this decision was rendered, mak- 

 ing reference to this decision, and that the railroads absolutely 



decline to take estimated weights as against scale weights, and 

 the commission has decided with the railroads, so that regard- 

 less of what evidence we may be able to produce as to the 

 actual weight of the commodity, it will not stand against the 

 actual scale weight. I think this is a matter of sufficient im- 

 portance for the association to investigate and see what is the 

 evidence that was produced in this case and if additional evi- 

 dence can be ]>roduced on a rehearing to liave it done. 



Mr. Ma.vhew: I discussed that same .subject with Mr. Weak- 

 ley and he, like most anyone else, was led to believe that the evi- 

 dence presented must have been ridiculously weak. I believe it 

 is important that that thing be investigated in order to find out 

 what eviilence was put in and if necessary new evidence brought 

 out and more attorneys emplo.ved. The railroads over which we 

 shiji were very careful to send to our Mr. Weakley a copy of 

 that decision, lalliug his attention to the fact that he might 

 have overlooke<l it. 



President (';urier: This is very important. I should think 

 that our Traus|iortatiiui (.'ommittee of which ilr. Weakley is 

 chairman should look into it very carefully. T believe that next 

 month there is to be a meeting of the trafhc managers in Chi- 

 cago I think nndcr Leonard Bronson. I think that is something 

 that should be railed to their attention at that time. 



Mr. .M;iylie\v: Our .Mr. Weakley expects to bring it up at that 

 time. 



Presiilent Carrier: Of course, if we do not do it. all those who 

 have sufficient lumber to justify it v.'ill have to put in scales. 

 1 have lundier scales myself at the mills. We know that the 

 railroads just shove this stutf across a jiair of scales and very 

 frequently get ridiculous weights on lumlier. 



Mr. Delaney: 1 move tli;it that be referred to the Traffic 

 I ommittee. 



.Mr. Townsend: We have a B. &• O. weiglim;ister ju-esent. 1 

 wo\Ud like to hear what he has to say about that before we 

 vote. 



-Mr. Vates: That strikes ]ne as bi'ing the most ridiculous 

 thing 1 have heard of. for the commission to decide a point like 

 that. 1 ha|ipen to lia\c' lieen a weighmaster for two years my- 

 self before I was introduced into the lumber fraternity. It 

 was at a coal billing station. We were always as careful as 

 we possibly could be, hut any one who has ever had any experi- 

 ence in that line kiunvs that if he wants to keep his coat on 

 and hold liis life, the tr:iin people won't stand for a weigh- 

 uuister dictating to tlieui. I have seen cars time after time 



