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Hardwood Record — Veneer & Panel Section 



December 10, 1917 



hurried through in order to clear the deck for more es- 

 sential work. 



President F. A. Marshall, of Rhinelander, Wis., called 

 the meeting to order; the roll was called by Secretary 

 Howard S. Young, of Indianapolis, Ind. The reading 

 of the minutes of the last meeting was dispensed with. 

 Working committees, as follows, were appointed: 



NOMINATIONS: C. H. Barnaby, E. W. Benjamin and H. E. 

 Kline; 



MEMBERSHIP: M. C. Dow, H. B. Sale and J. D. Maris; 

 AUDITING: W. p. Groffman, H. J. Barnard and Bruce Clark. 



Treasurer E. H. Deflebaugh read the report of finances 

 which showed a fair balance in hand after meeting the 

 association's expenses up to date. 



The buffet lunch was served by the hotel management 

 in the meeting room, to save time. 



THE GOVERNMENT'S PANEL TEST 



Two government engineers, Mr. Teesdale and Mr. 

 Hicks, from the Forest Products Laboratory at Madison, 

 Wis., discussed the methods and purposes of the govern- 

 ment in testing panels for war work. The tests being car- 

 ried on include both glues and veneers. The glues are 

 tried out to ascertain their water-resisting qualities, and 

 some of the tests are quite severe, including submersion 

 in water during various periods from a few minutes up to 

 several days; exposure to atmospheric conditions as severe 

 as the panels are apt to meet in actual service in air- 

 planes, and in temperatures that cover all changes of 

 climate. The glues so tested are in panel wfork, and 

 failures are manifested in the falling apart or loosening of 

 the veneer sheets or plies composing the panels. 



The question whether the government had found ab- 

 solutely waterproof glues, or whether it was trying to 

 make such glue was not answered by the engineers who 

 explained that there were a number of matters which they 

 were not at liberty to discuss, and that was one of them. 

 It was stated, however, that satisfactory glues can be had. 



The tests of the veneer sheets composing the panels 

 which go into the wings and other parts of airplanes are 

 carried out in several ways, and for the purpose of de- 

 termining a number of factors. There is a bendinr< 

 strength test, both with and across the grain of single 

 sheets, two-ply, three and more ply; and similar tests of 

 panels with crossbanding; tests for splitting, for warp- 

 ing, density and shearing, and tests of riveting. These 

 matters, which are more or less technical in character, 

 were described in detail. 



MATTER OF PUBLICATION 



Questions from several members sought to elicit the 

 information whether the government intended to publish 

 the results of its experimental work v^ith veneers and 

 panels, and while the replies of Messrs. Teesdale and 

 Hicks were not positive, they were inclined to doubt 

 whether the data would be made public, but they under- 

 stood that it was for the benefit of the Signal Corps, which 

 is a body concerned in war appliances and materials. A 

 number of members expressed disappointment that the 

 government should collect data so vital to veneer manu- 

 facturers and then withhold it from them. Further dis- 

 cussion, however, showed that the data was not yet in 

 shape to be of benefit to panel makers, but that it w^ould 

 not be kept out of reach, once it is in shape to be given to 

 those interested. It is not proper to make public experi- 

 ments which are not yet complete. 



TTie subject of airplane material came up for general 

 discussion, not only by the engineers from the government 

 laboratory, but by a number of manufacturers who have 

 lately been in Washington or in communication with gov- 

 ernment officials. A good deal of information was given 

 regarding veneer in airplanes. The work along that line 

 is enormous. Figures showing the veneer required for 

 airplanes are astonishing. Some members, who were re- 

 cently in Washington, said that it is stated there that con- 

 tracts have been let for 22,000, and probably 75,000 



M. W. PERRY, .\LGOX.\, WIS., MEMBER 

 WAR SERVICE COMMITTEE 



R. h. JCRDEX, Mt.Ui. iii.s, .MEMBER W.\R 

 SERVICE COMMITTEE 



HdWARD S. yOUXG, INDIANAPOLIS, 

 RE-ELECTED SECRETARY 



IND., 



