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HARDWOOD RECORD 



HardWood Record f&ail Bag. 



[In this department it is proposed to reply 

 to such inquiries as reach this office from the 

 Haruwood Record clientage as will be of enough 

 general interest to warrant publication. Every 

 patron of the paper is invited to use this de- 

 partment to the fullest extent, and an attempt 

 will be made to answer queries pertaining to all 

 matters of Interest to the hardwood trade. In 

 a succinct and intelligent manner J 



The Cutting of Dimension Stock. 

 Grand Rapids Mi.ii.. Jum 13 Editor 

 Habdv i. I have read with a great 



deal of Interest y ■ article in the last Issue 



of the fler the caption, Hardwood 



Dlmer ii. 1 I can fully agree and 



sympathize with the conditions set forth In 



review this matter briefly; it would ap- 

 thal the present conditions In regard 

 islon stock were not bo 



until the shortage In quartered oak, s three 



or foni nee, mad.' It desirable for those 



using sn.ii stock around and find some 



w.n n supply the demand at a lower price 

 than thej were compelled t<> pay for lumber, and 

 <ut it up themsi 



Tli.- largesl us, ally 



I . were chair man ami. as 



Hi.- lengths they i l were from 16 Inchi 



could i»»' gotten onl "ti a 



ng saw Since you are, no doubt, familiar 



with ihi- operation, you will appreciate thai 



it required a very limited amount of capital 



to go tiii Deration, probably not more 



than tl,c $1 800. Furthermore, as 



manufai turli ng up to a few 



confined their operations almost exclusively to 

 white <>ak, and as In many Instances the users 

 of :l , in. ii stock, especially chair manufacturers, 

 would just as Boon have red oak as white 

 oak, H gave a wider market to the business, 

 and as a large number of these operators do 

 appreciate that there is any re 

 latlon whatever and selling price, 



the market bai thoroughly demoral 



Ized. 



riain to what extent tin 



izatlon existed, on several occasions dur- 

 pa it- or live months we have mailed 



. ninmttnii at mi!- I-, some half dozen of those 

 win. ai-.- making dlmei 



solicit in- prices "ii some of the i 



widths an. I lengths. Son no doubt will he sur- 

 t to learn that prices have varied aa 

 nin.il as £20 per thousand. 



ii i hat operators do not seem to 



appreclati that the ting out d 



slon - tly exc Is the expense of manu- 



i. i. in. apparently imbued with 

 Ho idea that ttlng something out 



r.f Hi.- i..\- which heretofore they have 



not been able ■ tne cases at all. they 



throw away the profit which should accrue 

 from making such si 



NOW, as a iiiiii 

 slon stuck should pay more than If the3 



i -.-. on. is for the It 



on this stn.k make, ii absolutely clear of de 



ap being considered no defect, 



and it is i hi ami sold in such widths and 



reduce the waste in cutting to 



the minimum A- a matter of fact, the 



which are being made are such as to enable 



to purchase this stock at a price which 



Is about one-half ol what they would pay for 



nds, 



In talking over this matter a few days since 



With one of tl users of dimension 



stock in ■. and one win. vlewa the 



matter from an int. dpolnt, be stated 



thai ' prices on the 



■ ;.| value 1,. tli.' 



n..t know "where he 

 hi' having placed Ms 



order at a certain price he baa had quotations 

 which would enable him to purchase the - 

 stork from sin. it. i to $15.00 cheaper. You can 

 well appreciate that h condition 



the manufacturers a never so high 



Integrity, that when the shipment at the high 

 is received and inspected, there is bound 



1.. I nough exception taken to the stock to 



somewhat equalize the prl a tin- two 



It Is certainly a condition which should 



ii' ted and at once, and we trust that ways 

 and means may I so that the manu- 



i may unite upon some 

 plan whereby something like a uniform price 

 may be received for certain widths and lengths 

 and we would be very .'lad indeed if you would 



use your good Offices to a I least bring about 



some - opinion from those promi- 



nently interested in such manufacture C. S. 

 B ft Co 



tins. Tt:\y . June 1-' Editor Hardwood 



o: The writer's attention has i>ecn called 

 I,. an editorial in your Issue of June 10, en- 

 titled "Hardw 1 Dimension Stock" The 



writer of that editorial certainly knew his busl- 



and knew Just what if was « 



ill.- past live ye i "i has l n try- 



ing t" d.. something that It did nol know any- 

 thing about. We I. .si money every year for 

 three years working out this problem, but can 

 now slate, with all frankness, that we are 

 making money ..in of the dimension business. In 



our experience we bav< n quite a number of 



mill men start cutting tl and 



-....ii pass away. It egular business," 



and if any man thinks he can make D 

 cutting dimension stock unless he pays dear- 

 ly for his experience! we would like to see 

 him acc plish It. We know jusi what it costs 



::iie this plant 

 \\ . donbl whether an organization would do 

 any g..od. but we win co-operate with yo 



any in trying '•• get the best results, and 



if an organization is the thing, we are "In." 

 \v. are glad valuable paper has taken 



up this matter. B ,v I 



The two ! mm well- 



knoyvii producers of ha nsion 



stock _te.it interest in the 



possibilities of this substantial adjunct of 



the harchi 1 lumber trade, and both deplore 



the condition in which this feature of the 

 business is involved. 



The Editor i ber coi rns in 



te.l in th, production of dimension 

 stock -nil ly and frankly express 



themselves for publication in these columns, 

 as ii would seem that the time is ripe for 

 gitation of this subject thai will eventu- 

 ally redound to the good of the trade. 



OR, 



Standard Sizes in Wagon Stock. 

 Nashville. t..n\.. June it. Editor Hard 



Rl . ..Ki. i ;m you Supply us with a lis' 



of regular siz"s in dimension stock used bj 

 wagon manufacturers, that would find a ready 

 sale to wagon makere 



The larger wagon makers of the United 



States have •"] ial sizes of stock cut to 



order for their use. They figure that by 

 having s| a littl. different from 



ii. i. - used by their neighbors, that when 



they enter into a contract with a producer 

 of this mat, n ii tiny can depend upon get- 



ting it. and will not be outbid by some 

 other manufacturer who m.'ght be short of 

 stock, or for some other reason willing to 

 pay a premium for it. 



However, there are a few sizes in wagon 

 stock that may be counted as standard. 

 Whit? oak felloes of standard size are 2x2% 

 — 3 ft. 8 and 4 ft. 6, which indicates that 

 the tread is 2 inches, the depth 2%, the 

 height of th,- front wheel 3 ft. 8 in. and the 

 height of the rear wheel 4 ft. (3 in. These 

 felloes are cut on the segment of a circle to 

 a templet supplied by any wagon maker. 



Standard sizes of poles, • which may be 

 sawed from either white or red oak or white 

 ash, are -Jxlxlx 1 -12 ft. or 3x4 — 12 ft. An- 

 other standard size in poles of the same 

 material is 2>i a I ' , X I • , x-1 1 ,— 1:2 ft. or 3^4x 

 4%— 12 ft. 



In hickory axles stock sizes used by 

 nearly all manufacturers are 3x4 — 6 ft.; 

 3%x4%— 6 ft.; :;'exl'o -ii ft.; 1x5—6 ft.; 

 tr5%— 6 ft. 



The requirements for axles are good shell 

 bark or Mack hickory; pecan or pignut 

 hickory are rarely acceptable. 



Doubletrees of the same material 2x 1 1 

 tt. and L'\ !'_■ I ft. are standard sizes which 

 it ilb ready sale. — Editor. 



Names of Pole and Shaft Manufacturers 

 Wanted. 



mi \. ii. i.m... June it. liditor IIarbwood 

 Record n you can do so, kindly furnish us 

 with a list of Independent pole and shaft maun 

 fa. Hirers. .1. l.i , i i O 



Will readers of the Hardwood Record 

 kindly supply the editor with this informa- 

 tion for the benefit of this correspondent? — 

 OB, 



Cypress Manufacturers' Association. 



At a in.. .South- rn Cypress Manu- 



facturers' Association held at New Orleans, La., 



June ii. twenty two members responded to the 



roll call. This organization was formed May 



10, at which committees were selected to 



prepare outlines of the work for the associa- 

 tion The gathering was an adjourned meet- 

 ing for the purpose of hearing reports from 

 th,- various committees appointed at the first 

 meeting. 



President r wiii.cn. of A. Wllbert's Sons 

 Lumber & Shingle Company, Plaquemine, La., 

 presided, and Secretary George W. Dodge, of 

 1io.Il-. \ Sunbury, Napoleonville, La., made a 

 brief report, which was followed by the reports 

 of the various committees. The report of the 

 committee on terms of sale, of which A. T. 

 ins, ,,i the St. Louis Cypress Company, 

 Ltd.. i i, follows: 



"Slxiy daya open account or ninety days' 

 acceptance after date of invoice; 2 percent dis- 

 count for cash II paid within tii n days from 



date of shipment, or 1 percent If paid within 

 thirty days: remittances must be in par ex- 

 change or cash. Shippers are not responsible for 

 delays in transit nor do they guarantee deliv- 

 ery of shipments; responsibility ceases after ob- 

 taining bill .1 lading from the transportation 

 compan 



Aftei a length] discussion, the terms as ex- 

 pressed were adopted. t<> be made effective at 

 once. 



The price list committee asked for a longer 

 time iii whi.h to accomplish the task of devis- 

 ing a standard price list, and the matter was 

 held over till a later meeting. 



The large attendance and interest manifested 

 foreshadows an influence which will undoubt- 

 edly promote the cypress industry of the s..,ith 

 materially. Cypress conditions were reported 

 satisfactory, and business^ though not rushing, 

 fair \ olume. 



