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lion Is without <]oubt entirely Justlfled because we are building more 

 aubstantially tban in the past and because other materials now compete 

 with lumber which possess superior qualities. But why not improve 

 methods? Why not improve practice? Luml)crmen take a very apathetic 

 attitude toward such questions— an attitude which is discouraging to 

 all those interested in the proper use of timber. I feel It is squarely 

 up to the lumbermen themselves to take a more active part in their own 

 btisiness. You are now In a defensive position and, in my opiuion, this 

 is always a weak position. Changes in the manufacture and mcrchan- 

 ■dlsing of lumber are going to occur whether or not you wish them. The 

 causes for these changes are so fundamental that they are already outside 

 ■of your control. But it would seem the part of wisdom and sound 

 business tor all lumbermen to take a real, active interest in the effects 

 of these causes rather than to hold aloof from them or to continually 

 op|X)se them. 



In conclusion, I should be glad to coSpcrate with this association in 

 our study of the lumber Industry which we now have under way, particu- 

 larly In securing data on tlie amounts of low grade lumber and waste 

 .you produce, and in determining the most practical means of decreasing 

 the amount of low grades and increasing the utiliicatlon of waste. 



The subject of feeding men in logging camps was opened Vjy the 

 reading of a pamphlet on this subject prepared by R. S. Kellogg, 

 secretary of the association. This pamphlet, which was full of 

 instructive suggestions, can probably be obtained by writing Mr. 

 Kellogg at Wausau, Wis. 



The most notable feature was the preparation of a tentative 

 standard bill of fare which Mr. Kellogg was earnest in maintaining 

 as merely tentative and suggestive. It is reproduced on page 30. 



The investigation which led up to Mr. Kellogg 's final conclusions 

 was exhaustive and extremely systematic and practical. 



An interesting discussion followed the general report, E. A. 

 Hamai: saying that he has been investigating the problem very 

 ■closely and has found that a very large part of the cost comes 

 from an excessive feeding of meat; that this has amounted to eight 

 cents per man per meal, and he is not now feeding his men so much 

 meat as he formerly did; and that this item should be cut down. 



R. B. Goodman opened a discussion of camp expenses. He said 

 that this daily expense for productive days of labor, not including 

 isuudays, averaged 68.8 cents. 



Secretary Kellogg suggested requesting the University of Wis- 

 ■consin to investigate the problem along scientific lines through 

 its domestic science department. He suggested that cereals such as 

 ■oatmeal with milk are not good food as other more attractive food 

 is usually eaten first, with the result that the oatmeal is usually 

 left. 



C. H. Worcester stated that there is too much food on the table 

 at once, and thought that food might better be served in courses. 



M. J. Quinlan said that his company has two camps, one of eighty 

 men, where the average cost per day is 73 cents, and one camp of 

 125 men, where the average cost is 77 cents. He said that at the 

 125-mau camp, each man has consumed an average of three-and-a- 

 third pounds of meat per day, and that this camp reduced the 

 average cost 17 cents by changing cooks. 



He also said that there is not so much "sickness" when there is 

 a charge for board on idle days, and that the use of eggs does not 

 necessarily cut down the feeding of meat. 



It was moved that the matter be taken up with the University 

 of Wisconsin. 



President Goodman opened up a discussion on the cost of logging. 

 He said that there is no real standard of cost accounting in this 

 ■question, and it is difficult to give real accurate figures, that incon- 

 sistent figures on one item would probably be compensated by more 

 consistent figures on others. 



He said that there was a tendency to omit charging "carrying 

 ■charges" against standing timber, and in this way it was very 

 difficult to ascertain whether an actual loss or profit is sustained in 

 lumber operations. 



Mr. Goodman read a summary of percentages of different grades, 

 which he has worked up from close observation. The summary was 

 as follows: 



FAS No. 1 No. 2 No. 3 



Maple 12 25 23 40 



Soft Elm 15 25 20 40 



Bircb 20 25 20 35 



Hemlock 40 20 40 



The fallowing is a table reproduced by him which he explained, 

 and which offors at least good, interesting suggestions: 



LUMBER— Coat Sliect 



UMiA 



.StumpaK* Exp 

 Actual LAKirinK 

 R««<1> «nd Span 

 l»C Haul or Lotgiiyg R 



Ovfrh«ajl 



LtmilKR 



Mil 



Mtil U 



MM] I 



Plant Ovnhca.] - 



Shippinc 



Salci ExjMdi* .... 

 Oocral £xpcna« . 

 DUcount wid Dm1u< 



EXPLANA^nON— 



Stum pa He 



Stumpacc ExpMiM 



Actual Lotting 

 SaWinc 

 Swamplnil 

 SkMdmc 



Supplies and Repair 



Loir Haul or lJ>ir7>nK Railroad 

 Sl«lch Haul 

 Railroad Maintenance 

 Railroad Operation 



7» 



i.oo 



1. 00 



3.U 

 I.0O 



Rirrli 

 ^.OO 

 1X0 

 GXO 



1X0 

 2X0 



1X0 



Mapl* 



1X0 



J» 



6M 

 1X0 

 1X0 

 2X0 

 1X0 



«.» 

 1.50 

 4.7S 

 1X0 

 1X0 

 2X0 

 1X0 



tM 

 SXO 

 1X0 

 1X0 

 2X0 

 1X0 



1&30 

 3X0 

 1.0O 



9.23 

 3.M 

 1.10 



13X« 

 3.7S 

 1X0 



16.1ft 

 3.50 

 1X0 



18 84 

 Aah 



2140 

 Baxawood 



20X0 

 Birch 



18-73 

 MapU 



21.21 



<f«rt em 



23.45 

 Oak 



Overhead — Lofging Sopt — Office Expense. Woritmen's Om. 

 penaatlon, Fire Inxurance. Detireeialion of honea and 

 equipment. Poreman'a icaler and cleric 



Mill to Pfle 



Mill Labor 



Soppllea and. Repalra— Mill and Yard 



Oifand Waste 



Power 



Superintendent 



Sonlnjt and Pllinr 



I'tant Overhead — Depreciation to Mill — Insurance on mill 

 and on lumber, taxes on same, liability Insurance, of. 

 (Ice expense, extraonlinary operating expenses. 



Preisht — Railroad Prei^ht when shipped on line of Common 

 Carrier — This amount is an arbitrary. Mills located 

 in their own Umber have other expenses which offset 

 this item 



Salea Expense (must include commlaaiani) 

 General Expense 

 Discount and Deductions 



It is estimated that a mill manufacturing 20,000,000 feet of lum- 

 ber will necessitate a total investment of $300,000. 



M. P. McCuUough stated that in his opinion nobody has an over-run 

 of fifteen per cent on hardwoods, and that as a consequence the 

 price statement which Mr. Goodman read in connection with the 

 grade percentages showed even more unfavorably. 



M. J. Quinlan, reporting for the bureau of grades and market 

 conditions, referred to the Michigan report and said that it shows 

 conditions substantially the same as in Wisconsin. He raised the 

 question as to the suggestion that the association join the National 

 Hardwood Lumber Association as a body rather than as individuals. 

 He recommended that no action be taken until the annual meeting. 



The president called on George W. Jones, secretary of the Hlinois 

 Lumber & Building Supply Association. Mr. Jones referred to the 

 traffic work of that association and recommended that jobbers take 

 advantage of it. He said that his organization is making no special 

 effort to stimulate building on account of present low prices of 

 lumber. 



Adolph Pfund, secretary of the Wisconsin Retail Lumber Deal- 

 ers' Association, gave an interesting resume of retail conditions 

 throughout Wisconsin. Acording to Mr. Pfund the retail business 

 is now below normal. Retailers have made decided reductions to 

 consumers in conformity with lessening prices they have paid. This 

 is simply the logical result of competition. The speaker did not 

 recommend active "build now" campaigns. 



M. J. Fox spoke earnestly regarding the tendency to manufacture 

 more lumber than the demands would justify. He said that the 

 average consumer does not want fluctuating prices any more than 

 does the manufacturer. 



C. H. Worcester spoke rather pessimistically regarding the situa- 

 tion and expressed himself as anticipating a lack of consumption in 

 all lines for some time to come. 



The motion was adopted that it was the consensus of the meeting 

 that retailers are doing everything possible to assist the trade as a 

 whole under the present difficult conditions. 



On motion of M. P. MeCullough, the secretary was instructed to 

 put a notice in the next bulletin to the effect that any members 

 wishing mail stuffers should address the secretary. 



After a few remarks by representative members of the lumber 

 trade press, the meeting adjourned. 



