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that product more cheaply than veneer waste, he had disposed of all 

 of his poplar and gum waste in bulk carlots to pulp manufacturers and 

 realized a net profit, deducting the cost of coal necessarily purchased, 

 of about $45 a car, which made a total profit of from $300 to $400 

 a mouth. The question was raised as to whether this method could 

 be utilized by other members cutting other woods, and it was generally 

 conceded that it was a logical outlet for only certain kinds of wood. 



The discussion brought out the general opinion that it is very dif- 

 ficult to analyze the question of utilization of veneer waste closely 

 as one kind of waste can be marketed whereas another kind of the 

 same general form but of a different wood cannot, and also that a 

 mill located in one locality can, because of favorable freight rates, 

 market its product whereas another must necessarily use it for fuel. 



President Lord said that during present conditions of low prices 

 in cordwood it is impossible to consider marketing waste for pulp, 

 and suggested that members bear in mind that it can ordiuarily be 

 marketed on freight rates of from five to six cents during more nor- 

 mal times. 



F. F. Chandler of Indianapolis, manufacturer of engines and boil- 

 ers, read a most interesting and instructive paper entitled "Three 

 Dozen Ways for Gain," in which he analyzed the possibilities of 

 saving in innumerable ways in power plants. Mr. Chandler main- 

 tained that no one part of any factory is given less consideration 

 than the power plant, and also that in no other factor in manu- 

 facturing institutions is there more room for money saving applica- 

 tions. Mr. Chandler's paper is too valuable to run in brief form 

 and we wiU carry it in full in the December 25th issue Hakdwood 

 Eecord, together with questions and answers brought out in the dis- 

 cussion which followed. 



Following the reading of Mr. Chandler's paper the meeting ad- 

 journed with a bineheon, which was served in the convention room. 



Afternoon Session 



Harry Hunter of the Hunter Dry Kiln C'oiniiany, Indianapolis, 

 Ind., was the first speaker of the afternoon session. His paper is 

 given in full in another part of this issue of H.vsDWOOi) Ke'.-oed. 



A discussion of the drying problem and Mr. I£unter's special 

 process followed. 



A. E. Gorham, chairman of the inspection and grading rules com- 

 mittee, read a list of changes recommended by that committee, based 

 on replies received from an inquiry sent out by the sccietary. Afte" 

 a lengthy discussion it was moved that the whole matter be referroil 

 to the individual clubs for settlement, and that their findings \k 

 sent to the secretary and adopted as the rules of the association. 



The chief controversy in the discussion was developed over the 

 question as to the grading of log-run rotary veneer, and it was evi- 

 dent that there is a very hazy idea on this grade of stock. There 

 seemed to be a question as to whether ' ' log-run ' ' constitutes really 

 the run of the log exclusive of culls, or whether it rei)rcsent3 the 

 specific reiiuirements of certain users of rotary stock. It was recom- 

 mended that it would be good policy to get away from the log run 

 method of sales altogether, in order to clarify a very cloudy issue. 

 No action, however, was taken on this recommendation. 



The discussion of the grading proposition was interrupted in order 

 that the members might enjoy an address by E. F. Trefz, field secre- 

 tary of the Chamber of Commerce of the United States of America. Mr. 

 Trefz has established his reputation among the lumber associations, 

 and this was the first opportunity the veneer manufacturers had of 

 listening to him, and most of them expressed their oinnion of his 

 efforts by stating they believed it was worth a trip to Chicago simply 

 to hear him speak. 



Mr. Trefz 's talk covered economic developments throughout the 

 country, and the dependence of the nation upon what is commonly 

 known as ' ' big business. ' ' He summarized the conditions leading up 

 to the declaration of war in Europe, and expressed himself as believ- 

 ing that this country will be benefited mcst through its making us 

 realize our failings. The most marked effort will be the bringing 

 of busines^s and government more closely in sympathy and contact 

 with each other, to the end that the problems of business men will 

 be met intelligently and fairly by the national and state legislatures. 



Mr. Trefz sounded a note that was distinctly encouraging, when 

 he said that business cannot get worse, nor can it stand stUl, but will 

 unquestionably gradually become stronger until at the culmination 

 of the war we will have reached a period of prosperity which will 

 have been unprecedented. He also expressed himself convincingly on 

 the probable stability of that prosperity when it comes, saying that 

 it cannot fail to endure for at least twenty years. 



President Lord brought up the question of the appointment of a 

 delegation to the national chamber of commerce convention, which 

 will take place at Washington in February. On motion, this appoint- 

 ment was left to the chair. 



Similar action was taken on the appointment of delegates to the 

 pending meeting of officers of lumber associations which will be held 

 at the La Salle hotel, Chicago, December 17, for the purpose of 

 outlining a plan for successfully combating wood substitutes. 



President Lord introduced H. G. Herget of the Pekin Cooperage 

 Company, Pekin, 111., who has been active in traffic matters in con- 

 nection with cooperage shipments. Mr. Herget outlined the work 

 being done by the Cooperage Traffic Bureau, an organization formed 

 originally by the tight cooperage manufacturers and recently adopted 

 by the stave and heading manufacturers and slack cooperage interests 

 for the furtherance of the interests of these various groups of busi- 

 ness men in their traffic controversies. 



He said as the association now stands it has not sufficient mem- 

 bership to enable it to carry on its work as successfully as it might 

 had it more financial backing, and suggested that the veneer associa- 

 tion look into the matter of joining this jis a body or individually 

 in order to have some central representation before the proper bodies 

 in the settlement of questions of this character. 



The matter was placed in the hands of the railroad classification 

 committee, and the same motion carried instructions that that com- 

 mittee get in touch with the Uniform Classification Committee, which 

 is maintained in Chicago, for the purpose of taking up with tlicni the 

 classification of veneers. 



On motion the meeting then adjourned until 6:30, at which time 

 the members were requested to gather for a dinner, and in order to 

 close up the remaining matters before the business session. 



More than one hundred members and guests sat down at the dinner 

 which was provided in the south rooms of the Auditorium hotel for 

 the evening. 



It had originally been the intention to finish the business sessions 

 following the dinner, but it is usually a pretty difficult proposition 

 to mix business with such functions, and President Lord very grace- 

 fully slid over the original pUuis and devoted most of the time to 

 calling on various individuals, who responded in a variety of veins, 

 humorous and serious. 



About the only business transacted was the report of the resolu- 

 tions committee and the election of the officers. Resolutions were 

 adopted on the death of William Seiber of the Central Veneer Com- 

 pany, Huntington, W. Va., and thanks to the various speakers who 

 had read papers before the day's session. 



The nominating committee recommended that all of the officers 

 who served during the past year be reelected. The action taken on 

 this recommendation was unanimously favorable. The officers are: 



President, B. W. Lord, Danville, Ky. 



I<"IiisT Vice-President, A. E. Oorhniii. Mount I'liasant. Mlrl.. 



Second Vhe-Puesiuent, Charles II. linrnaby. iliicnciistlc. Intl. 



Thiud Vice-President, L. P. Groffniaun, St. Louis, Mo. 



E. H. Defebaugh tendered his resignation as secretary of the asso- 

 ciation, and Howard S. Young of Indianapolis, Ind., formerly assist- 

 ant secretary, was duly made secretary of the association. 



E. H. Defebaugh was elected to the office of treasurer. 



The executive board made one change, H. B. Sale of Fort Wayne, 

 Ind., filling the vacancy made by the withdrawal of K. C. Dayton. 



Applications for memberships were filed by the following who 

 were duly accepted: 



Van Veneer Company. Malvern. ,\rk. 



Indianapolis Sawed Veneer Cotupany. Indianapolis, Ind. 



Nicliey Bros. & Hass. Memphis, Tenn. 



Stiinson Veneer & I.,uinlier Company. Memphis. Tinn. 



<•. I,. Willey, Clileaso. III. 



