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consumers of lumber t<> membership in this asso- 

 ciation, and that the president appoint a com- 

 mittee hi three to take up the methods by which 

 they can be admitted. 



lour committee has looked on the consumers' 

 list, as suggested by the president and secretary, 

 wiih ii great deal oi Interest, and feel that this 

 work is oi the bighesl advantage to the mem- 

 bers of the association, and we believe that 

 when its usefulness is thoroughly known there 

 is nothing "i equal value that has come up to 

 our association for years past. We take great 

 pleasure in recommending and praising the work 

 thai has so far been accomplished, and we be- 

 lieve that this work alone should be the cause 

 of largely Increasing our membership. We 

 therefore recommend that the incoming execu- 

 tive board adopt the methods best soiled to the 

 interests of the association for the publication 

 and distribution of the work. Our opinion is 

 thai the sai,. of ibis book should be confined to 

 the membership of the association. 



We recommend that the convention authorize 

 the president to appoint delegates at the proper 

 time to represent ibis association at the meeting 

 of the National Lumber Manufacturers' Associa 

 tion at Norfolk, \'a. 



We recommend the creation of an executive 

 grading commission that will be composed of 

 men whose interests are directly identified with 

 tlic manufacture, sale and purchase of your 

 products. The number of members to be lixed 

 by the executive board of the association as 

 circumstances may require. 



In line with our usual procedure, the variety 

 of the woods in the methods of grading have 

 been controlled by standing committees, subdi- 

 vided into tlie different woods, and we recom- 

 mend that sucjb plan siill be retained and that 

 committees be appointed as follows : 



Poplar and basswood, to consist of seven. 



Oak, ash and chestnut, seven. 



Cottonwood, seven. 



Gum, seven. 



Cherry, walnut, sycamore, hickory and pecan, 

 seven. 



Beech, birch, soft and rock elm, bard and soft 

 maple, three. 



Vehicle dimension stork, five. 



Furniture dimension stork, five. 



We recommend that a statistical committee, 

 for the purpose of maintaining proper services 

 for the benefit of the members of the association 

 in disseminating information regarding the 

 stocks on hand, market conditions and other in- 

 formation of value which can be submitted to 

 the membership, be appointed and be subdivided 

 as follows : 



Poplar and basswood, In eotisist of seven 



Oak, ash and chestnut, seven. 



Cottonwood, seven. 



<ium, seven. 



1 'berry, walnut, butternut, sycamore, hickory 

 and peean, seven. 



Beech, birch, soft and rock elm, hard and 

 soft maple, three. 



Vehicle dimension stock, five. 



Furniture dimension stock, five. 



Hardwood flooring being a product that is 

 closely related to the production of woods rep- 

 resent* ed in ibis association, we recommend that 

 the policy of this association should be to create 

 a department of hardwood flooring for ibis asso- 

 ciation, and that a committee of three be ap- 

 pointed to draft the proper rules and regulations 

 for the admission of this class of manufacturers. 



We have noted the treasurer's complete and 

 concise report, and congratulate the association 

 upon its financial condition. 



The chief Inspector's reporl is a \fvy inter 

 esting document. He is emit led to the recog 

 nitlon of the association for his efficient services, 

 The president is entitled to the thanks of this 

 association for the unselfish work he lias done 

 during the past year. By bis strict attention 

 to the Interests of the association he has en 

 deared himself to ever} member of the organize 

 tion. 



The association is t<> be congratulated In con- 

 sequence of the efficient work of the president. 



The association is to lie congratulated greatly 

 in ennsequence of the efflclenl work done by its 

 secretary, Lewis Doster. His continuous re- 

 election to the position he has held since the 

 organization of t his association is the strongest 

 possible evidence of our appreciation of bis 

 services. Respect fully submitted, 



A. J. Gahagan. 



W. II. Hawkins. 



Frank F. Fee. 



W. w. Dings. 



w. C. Dewey. 



Discussion on Odd Lengths. 

 R. II. Vansant, chairman of the executive 

 commit tee, presented the recommendations 

 of his committee on the matter of grading 

 lilies, and moved they be adopted. One of 

 these recommendations was to the effect 



W. H. HERBERTSON, PITTSBURG, VA. t DI- 

 RECTOR. 



.1. J. MEAD, PITTSBURG, PA., DIRECTOR. 



that standard lengths be eight to twenty 

 feet inclusive, and that standard thick- 

 nesses be increased, so as to provide for an 

 increase of one-fourth of an inch in the 

 gtandard thicknesses of all lumber more 

 than one inch thick and up to four inches, 

 this division giving one-fourth, one-half 

 and three-fourths of an inch of each unit 

 up to four inches. 



C. Crane amended the recommendation with 

 the words "odd lengths shall be considered 

 standard lengths, the same as even lengths." 



The President We arc going back to the point 

 we had up this morning as to whether or not 

 the expression "s to Uii feet inclusive" would 

 really include odd lengths. This is the point to 

 decide now. We will put it to a vote as to 

 whether these words properly express what the 

 committee which brought in the report intended 

 to convey or whether the committee shall bring 

 In another report. There is danger of becoming 

 too technical in these matters, as I said before. 



Mr. Crane I quite agree with you that it Is 

 1 technical point but think the other statement 

 is plainer. People wilt know what we mean If 

 we 1 'ut in such words and it will not hurt 

 anyone. 



Mr. Love — 1 am opposed to odd lengths. We 

 have always sold lumber on even lengths. If 

 we put in odd lengths, we will have to buy on 

 them. If the report is left as it is, eight to 

 twenty feet, everyone will know what is meant. 



M. F. GREENE, NASHVILLE, TENN., DIREC- 

 TOR. 



Mr, Crane- In other countries there is a 

 preference for odd lengths. 



Mr. Vansant — The executive committee does 

 not agree with Mr. Love In his attitude on what 

 eight to twenty feet means. We asy "all 

 Lengths and widths are inclusive." That will 

 enable us to measure 9-inch boards as well as 

 Hi inch boards. It was considered that eight to 

 twenty feet would mean odd lengths the same as 

 seven to seventeen inches means odd widths. 



Mr. Love— There is a question as to whether 

 I am mistaken or not. In Nashville we have no 

 eleven or thirteen foot lumber. I do not think 

 anyone would want to buy odd lengths. 



Mr. Fee — It strikes me these words read a 

 little bit different from what Mr. Vansant thinks 

 they read. Why, under that construction, are 

 we not forced to measure twelve feet nine 

 inches? We have had a custom for years of 

 measuring walnut and cherry in odd lengths. 

 Hickory is used in the same way. The point 

 that I want to bring out especially is that if 

 you make eight to twenty feet there is no pro- 

 vision as to uieasurinc inches. I move, therefore, 

 that in measuring lengths the standard shall be 

 eight feet, adding a foot for each length up to 

 twenty feet. 



A member — I believe if you will leave it as 

 you had it, "eight to twenty feet." there will 

 unavoidably be discussion as to what is meant. 

 Say a customer objects to a carload of lumber. 

 The inspector says be is not sure whether the 

 odd lengths are standard or not. There is a 

 question as to what is meant. In the past we 

 have always measured our lumber in lengths 

 separated by two feet. Buyers will point to this 

 custom and on the strength of the custom will 

 assert that the seller is not justified in claiming 

 that he must adapt himself to the seller's views. 



Mr. Gahagan — The universal rule has been to 

 cut lumber even lengths. As timber gets scar- 

 cer every producer is anxious to get every foot 

 there is* in a board. I would suggest that the 

 rule be changed to read : Standard lengths shall 

 be eight to twenty feet and no fraction of a 

 foot to be counted. 



Another amendment was offered reading 

 " lengths eight to twenty feet in whole feet." 

 A suggestion was made that odd lengths be 

 specified thus: eight, nine, ten, eleven feet, 

 etc. 



Mr. Crane— I think it is just as much to the 

 advantage of the consumers as it is to the 

 producers and it should enable the latter to sell 

 lumber a little cheaper and probably would make 

 a difference of -SI a thousand feet in lumber cut 

 from logs coming from the mountainous districts. 

 Ninety per cent of the orders we have from 

 Europe contain specifications for odd lengths. 



J. B. Ransom moved that standard lengths 

 shall be 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 and 20 feet, and 

 this was supplemented by the statement that 

 if anyone wanted to sell odd lengths he was 

 at liberty to do so. 



One or two of the motions and amendments 

 to the motion were withdrawn and the propo- 



