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lifted, and what was discovered ? Nothing, only 

 that glue rooms were practically all alike. If 

 this association is able to throw open the doors 

 of its factories as sawmills have been thrown 

 open, it will be greatly to the advantage of 

 every member, and particularly to the advantage 

 of the men who have, up to this time, enjoyed 

 the closed door. 



Two boys were once at school when the teacher 

 placed the motto, "Be sure you are right, then 

 go ahead," upon the blackboard. One of the 

 boys was an Israelite, and he whispered to the 

 other, "Mine fodder says, be sure you are ahead 

 and den you know you is all right." 



The lumberman by adopting the open door 

 has proved the truth of the boy's version of 

 the matter. 



I am of the opinion, speaking of the free 

 discussion to which Mr. Groffman referred, that 

 nothing can so benefit a man as to listen to 

 what his neighbor has to say. Some men will 

 ask you your opinion ou a certain point, and 

 before you have said anything will go ahead 

 with their own views and those of others on 

 the same subject; and will talk and talk. Then 

 say good-bye and rush away perfectly satisfied. 



thinking they have I n well advised, when 



all the time you haven't said a word. Opinions 

 freely expressed here in open meeting are of 

 great benefit to us all and I wish we could 

 have more of them. 



You all remember when in the dark alleys and 

 slums of our cities it was thought necessary to 

 station great numbers of policemen to guard 

 against crime and insure the safety of indi- 

 viduals. But finally it was discovered that 

 bright lights over such places would have prac- 

 tically the same effect, so today we have more 

 arc lights and less policemen. If our association 

 is going to succeed by means of fines and penal- 

 ties we will be behind the times, but if we will 

 turn on the light, open and free discussion, it 

 will act as a guide and we won't need any po- 

 licemen, and we will advance, not retrograde. 



Some of our members' conduct in relation to 

 "Hi' association reminds me of a story. In an 

 elevated car one day sat a fat woman looking 

 somewhat disconsolate. At last she turned and 

 spoke to a dapper young man who sat behind 

 her. "Will you help me off at the next stop?" 

 she said. "Why?" he asked. "You see," she 

 said, "I am very fleshy and the steps are so 

 steep and narrow I can't get off like others but 

 . must go backwards. So when I am trying to 

 alight the conductor thinks I am trying to get 

 aboard and pulls me back ou again. lie has 

 dene this at three stations." 



The cultivation of fraternalism in our asso- 

 ciation is time well spent. It may appear to 

 some that we consume a great deal too much 

 time talking and visiting around the hotel lobby 

 and not enough in doing business in the asso- 

 ciation meetings. I believe, however, that the 

 getting acquainted, the fraternizing is two-thirds 

 "i the proposition, and that it is time extremely 

 well spent. It helps us to work together and to 

 understand each other better ; it helps fraternal- 

 ism. 



Therefore. I would say to you as my contri- 

 bution to this afternoon's discussion that our 

 association can assist the future progress of 

 our business better by the spirit of fraternalism 

 than in any other way. that we will have a com- 

 pact body, consider ourselves ;is one family, 

 without any fear that some one of us is going 

 to do some mean little thing to another. In 

 this connection, and as the best advice I can 

 give to our association, I would repeat the ad- 

 vice our great president gave to a boy's school 

 not long ago: "Don't flinch; don't foul; but 

 buck the line hard." 



Don't flinch — that is. don't shirk your part 

 in the association work. If you are asked to do 

 a disagreeable thing, don't shirk your duty, or 

 loose your nerve, but stand boldly in your place 

 and perform the part assigned you to the best 

 Of your ability. Don't foul — that is, do not do 

 :i mean or underhanded thing in business ; don't 

 in the price just a little to make a sale. Don't, 

 in a word, do anything that is unmanly, but 

 play tin- business game in which you are en- 

 gaged fairly, honestly and above board. Con- 

 iii your business with the greatest possible 

 energy and enterprise; that is, buck the busi- 

 ness line hard. 



SECOND DAY'S SESSION. 



On the morning of December 12 the members 

 of the association reassembled in the south par- 

 lor of the Auditorium. 



President Kline first called for the report of 

 the Auditing Committee on the statement sub- 

 mitted by Secretary-Treasurer Defebaugh. The 

 committee stated that it found the financial 

 conditions of the association very satisfactory, 

 and the statement correct. The report was ac- 

 cepted. 



The Committee on Constitution and By-laws 

 reported that it found some inconsistencies in 

 the rules as existing, and recommended that the 

 clause "four directors shall be elected to serve 

 one year and five to serve two years thereafter" 



(In the last sentence of Art. IV of the constitu- 

 tion) be stricken out, because of a different 

 provision for directors made in the first clause 

 of the same article. 



On motion the report of the committee was 

 laid on the table for action at the next meet- 



ing. 



B. W. Lord Talks. 



B. W. Lord was called upon to speak on the 

 subject, "Waste in Manufacturing Lumber," and 

 addressed the convention as follows : 



No one wants to hear another man's troubles, 

 as we all have troubles of our own, so this is 

 not a very pleasant subject. 



When we sell a man stock he pays for the 

 good, but the waste we have to pay for our- 

 selves, and pay dearly for it. 



A sawmill man buys his logs, manufactures 

 them into lumber, what the logs will make, and 

 then goes out and sells what he has, and he. 

 knows what he has to sell, but a veneer man 

 lias to sell his stock long before it is manufac- 

 tured, and then he has to depend on making 

 this special stock out of what logs he happens 

 to have on hand, and he has to take all the 

 chances until this stock is shipped. 



In the first place, when the veneer man goes 

 to buy logs, because he manufactures veneer, 

 they expect him to measure the logs more lib- 

 erally, do not want to make allowances for de- 

 fects in logs they would expect to make to a 

 sawmill man or other log buyers. In fact, when 

 you mention the word veneer, the logs cost you 

 more money, and you have to pay for consider- 

 able waste right there. 



It is almost impossible to keep orders that 

 will work up the lengths of logs not exactly, 

 but even closely, and there are two ends to a 



J. W. CLINARD, HIGH POINT VENEERING 

 CO., HIGH POINT, N. C. 



block, the same as two ends to a log, so that a 

 log for veneer you can figure has four to eight 

 cuds, which luiv i,, |„. trimmed off and wasted. 



Logs damage very fast on the ends, and, if 

 the bark is off, the sap is apt to be greatly hurl 

 or possibly worthless, then checks and splits 

 will so damage the log that you have to cut 

 them out before you commence to manufacture 

 veneer Hint you can sell, so that, before you 

 commence to cut veneer you have a large amount 

 of waste in sawing your logs, and the damage 

 on the outside, both of which you have to pay 

 for, but have to waste, and, as all your orders 

 are in a hurry, you are so anxious to please a 

 customer that you will waste a good part of the 

 length of the log in cutting out some rush 

 order. 



In order to manufacture good stock, your ma- 

 chines have to have good-sized spindles, and 

 good sized chucks. In a small log the core Is a 

 large percentage of the log, and, In order to 

 i ii a large log, you have to use a large chuck, 

 so thai your core in any kind of a log Is large 

 in proportion. 



After you pile up a large amount of cores. It 

 seems like a very sinful waste and you wonder 

 what to do with them. You can saw them into 

 boards and make short and narrow lumber of a 

 low grade ; you can sell them for pulp wood, if 

 you have enough of the right kind, or, if they 

 are extra long and choice, you can bore them for 

 porch columns, but. after you are through with 

 them, vou find that you have done a lot of 



work: you have good experience, and the satis- 

 faction of knowing that the stock is not wasted. 

 In regard to the cutting, veneer will shrink in 

 thickness and will also shrink in width, so that 

 it is necessary to cut the stock thicker and 

 wider than ordered. 



A log always appears a great deal better than 

 it turns out. and there is no limit to the amount 

 Of defects which appear in a log when It is be- 

 ing manufactured ; but it is almost an unheard- 

 of occurrence to have a log that looks bad turn 

 out good. In order to trim out the defects there 

 is an enormous amount of stock wasted, and, as 

 you are cutting orders to size the defects in a 

 log will appear just where you do not want 

 them. So you have a large piece to cut off, 

 which you can either throw away or save, with 

 lots of other slock which accumulates for a long 

 time, takes up lots of room and is a great fire 

 hazard. And when you do sell it you secure 

 so little for it that it is a question whether 

 you had not bet let- have thrown it away in the 

 first place, as the handling and drying of this 

 small stock is very expensive, and, on account 

 of the small sizes, it does not figure up much 

 in the total number of feet. 



When you take the stock to your clippers or 

 cut-off saw, there is another chance for waste. 

 It is hard to secure a man who can keep all the 

 different sizes In his mind, and he is bound to 

 make more or less mistakes. When he does he 

 looks around to see if anyone is looking, and 

 if not, will tear the sheets and throw them in 

 the waste pile, or make two or three extra cuts 

 with a knife, so you cannot tell that the stock 

 has been spoiled. 



Veneer has to be handled piece by piece, very 

 carefully, and it is very easy to break up stock 

 or lose a percentage in one of the many opera- 

 tions it has to go through. 



One of the great causes for waste is the in- 

 clination to hurry out certain orders which do 

 not work out well with the logs that you have, 

 and, if you will stop and figure what it costs 

 you to manufacture these special orders with- 

 out taking time to work the other orders in 

 connection with them, you will find it an enor- 

 mous waste, which you have to pay for. 



A few months ago I called on a very large 

 concern who wanted a few carloads of % panels, 

 about 24 to 30 inches wide. I saw the presi- 

 dent of this concern personally, and quoted him 

 a high pflce, and explained that the price was 

 on account of the enormous waste. This man 

 told me he had been in the lumber and wood- 

 working business all his life and knew all about 

 the veneer business, and that he could take pop- 

 lar logs and cut %-incn panels nothing under 

 24 inches, and overrun on his log measurement 

 15 per cent. 



Most buyers of veneer will figure that as you 

 have no sawdust or saw kerf that you can over- 

 run the veneer from a log to quite an extent, and 

 Hint is why so many men go into the veneer 

 business, but before they go out, as most of 

 them do, they can figure their waste in their 

 different operations of manufacture and a good 

 many will find that they have had more waste 

 than' their log measured. 



It seems to me Mint whenever a customer 

 asks any questions t hat are hard to answer, or 

 any question of price that seems startling, the 

 explanation and the answer for any question 

 would be tic. wast.' in manufacturing veneer. 



An application for membership was received 

 from Adams & Raymond of Indianapolis, which 

 was acted upon and accepted. 



Secretary Defebaugh 's Resolution. 

 Secretary Defebaugh made an urgent plea for 

 an active paid secretary or assistant to take 

 charge of the work of the association, and pre- 

 sented the following resolution : 



We, the signers hereto, petition the association 

 to change Hie constitution and bylaws, making 

 the annual dues fifty dollars ($50), to employ 

 assistants to widen the scope and increase the 

 usefulness of this organization. As evidence 

 of our good faith in the matter we agree to be 



one of forty i I anul'acturers to start this 



movement by paying the treasurer before Janu- 

 ary 1. 1907, fifty dollars ($50). 



In case this resolution does not become opera- 

 tive this amount will be prorated to the signers 

 hereto, less any expense authorised by the Execu- 

 tive Coinniitti !' Hie association. 



The subject brought considerable discus- 

 sion, in which Messrs. Kline. Sawyer, Richardson, 

 Hubbard and Quimby took active part, the latter 

 moving that the clause "As evidence of our good 



faith in the mailer we agree i" i ne of forty 



manufacturers t<, start ibis movement by pay- 

 i .. : lie 1 1 easurer before Januarj i . 1907, fifty 

 dollars" lie Btricken out. The motion was sec- 

 onded, put lo vote, tm. i carried. 



Report of Grading Rules Committee. 



The Committe n Grading Rules, consisting 



of Messrs. Lord, William- and Roberts presented 



its report, as follows : 



