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association had been misunderstood, since it 

 is to be carried on in entire harmony with 

 the interests of both manufacturers and job- 

 bers. The chief reason given for the forma- 

 tion of the association was to organize an 

 inspection bureau and employ expert in- 

 spectors to render uniform the inspection at 

 shipping points. Hitherto, owing to the 

 lack of interest of the jobbing element in 

 the 'Wisconsin Hardwood Lumbermen's 

 Association, manufacturers have not been 

 able to get this system installed, and again 

 it was considered unfair to ask the jobbers 

 to participate in the expense attached to 

 this bureau. It was therefore decided that 

 the manufacturers should organize sepa- 

 rately and secure the education of the local 

 inspectors to a point that they may be as- 

 sured that their lumber is being well manu- 

 factured and assorted so that they are get- 

 ting the best possible results out of their 

 logs and lumber. 



At the suggestion of II. C. Humphrey 

 • very member was asked to make sugges- 

 tions to the committee appointed on grad- 

 ing rules so that all obscure points and 

 present contradictory terminology and in- 



consistencies in grades might be corrected. 

 The secretary was instructed to incorporate 

 this request in his next circular letter to 

 members. 



The Hurting then adjourned. 



Those in attendance were: 



George H. Lusk, Nye, Lusk & Hudson Co., 

 Thorp. 



George E. Foster, Foster-Latimer Lumber Co., 

 M, lln,. 



Edward J. Young, Brittinghain & Young Co., 

 Madison. 



F. H. Pardoe, Fenwood Lumber Co. and In- 

 gram Lumber Co., Wausau. 



It. T. Doud. Iioud Sons & Co., Winona. Minn. 



A. E. Owen, John S. Owen Lumber Co., Owen. 



A. E. Beebee, B. F. McMillan & Brother, 

 McMillan. 



George H. Chapman, Northwestern Lumber 

 Co.. Stanley. 



E. P. Arpin, Arpin Hardwood Lumber Co., 

 Grand Rapids. 



Edward Lynch, Grand Rapids. 



II. II. Stolle, Stolle-Barndt Lumber Co., 

 Tripoli. 



Arthur Jarvis, Steven & Jarvis Lumber Co., 

 Eau Claire. 



Ted T. Jones, G. W. Jones Lumber Co.. Apple- 

 ton. 



II. C. Humphrey, G. W. Jones Lumber Co., 

 Appteton. 



M. J. Quintan, Menominee Bay Shore Lumber 

 Co.. Soperton. 



('. A.' Johnson, G. W. Jones Lumber Co., 

 Marshfleld. 



George M. Maxson, Cooper & Maxson Lumber 

 Co., Milwaukee. 



\V. C. Howe, American Lumberman, Chicago. 



L. E. Fuller, Lumber World, Chicago. 



Henry 11 Gibson, Hardwood Record, Chicago. 



HardWood Record JWai! Bag. 



[In this department it is proposed to reply 

 to such inquiries as reach this office from the 

 Hardwood Record clientage as will be of enough 

 general interest to warrant publication. Every 

 patron of the paper >s invited to use this de- 

 partment to the fullest extent, and an attempt 

 will be made to answer queries pertaining to ali 

 matters of interest to the hardwood trade, in 

 a succinct and intelligent manner.] 



Wants Rock Elm Logs. 

 Memphis, March 1G. — Editor Hardwood 

 Record: We have an inquiry from a German 

 customer asking for quotations on 5,000 feet of 

 rock elm 'logs, strictly clear, 15 in. and over in 

 diameter. 10 to 18 in. in length. If you can 

 refer us to some reliable firm who can make 

 quotations on this class of material will appre- 

 ciate it. Company. 



This correspondent has been furnished a 

 list of leading hardwood operators in sections 

 producing the best quality of rock elm; any 

 "tiers interested may secure the writer's 

 name on application. — Editor. 



Can you give us the name of any firms who are 

 consumers of short pieces of hickory, to whom 

 we could possibly effect a sale of this class of 

 goods ? . 



We have supplied the writer of the above 

 letter with the names of several people who 

 are buyers of short length hickory and any 

 others in the market should write us — 

 Editor. 



Utilization of Hardwood Edgings and Trim- 

 mings. 

 • Eau Claire, Wis., March 17. — Editor Hard- 

 wood Record: We are investigating the advisa- 

 bility of working up our hardwood edgings and 

 trimmings into dowels, map rods, flag sticks, 

 etc. Can you advise us the names of carload 

 buyers of this class of stuff? & Co. 



The writer of the above letter is one of 

 tie- foremost Wisconsin hardwood operators 

 and anyone who would like to be placed in 

 communication with him should address this 

 office. — Editor. 



Wants Market for Short Hickory. 



ASBl RY Park, N. J., March 12. — Editor 

 Hardwood Record: We have a mill cutting 



1 growth hickory for our own use. but as 



the wood we use must be straight grained and 

 free from nil defects for at least 40 in. in 

 length, we find that a very large proportion of 

 tie 1 wood is not available for our purpose, but 

 it would make very fine stock in shorter lengths. 



Criticizes Eeinspsection Methods. 



St. 1'ai i,. .Minn.. .Ian. 13, 1907. — Editor Hard- 

 wood Record: Referring to the editorial in the 

 Hardw Record entitled "Justice to Consum- 

 ers. " while we as consumers and buyers of a 

 considerable amount of hardwood lumber agree 

 to your proposition in a general way and think 

 a community of interests composed of buyers and 

 sellers would no doubt be a good thing, we are 

 of the opinion that a method of reinspecting dis- 

 puted cars can be followed which will be much 

 better than the method now in vogue. We take 

 it fur granted that a majority of consumers of 

 lumber, if. not all, are willing to pay for goods 

 of a fair and reasonable grade. 



The present method of the National Inspection 

 Bureau, as we understand it, is to send one of 

 their inspectors to reinspect the lumber and lie 

 goes on and inspects it arbitrarily and secretly, 

 not allowing the purchaser of the lumber to 

 know anything about how he arrives at his con- 

 clusions. This leaves the purchaser of the lum- 

 ber almost invariably with a "bad taste in the 

 mouth" and he is certainly warranted in feeling 

 that he at least has not had a square deal on 

 the face of it. 



There would seem to be two objects In view in 

 reinspecting a carload of lumber, namely, to 

 establish what is right and just on that partic- 

 ular carload of lumber between the buyer and 

 seller, and to show the purchaser of the lumber 

 what he should reasonably expect to receive. 

 This will tend to bring the ideas of the buyer 

 and seller onto a more common ground, which is 

 undoubtedly very desirable. While the National 

 Inspection Bureau follows this arbitrary and 

 secret course of procedure, the Pine Lumber 



Manufacturers' Inspection Bureau will send a 

 man to the yard of purchaser of the lumber and 

 reinspect what has been thrown out as not up 

 to grade. This man desires the help of the man 

 who inspected the lumber in going over this 

 stock and holds himself ready to show him the 

 reason for his decisions. On the other hand, if 

 the grader for the purchaser is able to show him 

 defects which he has inadvertently overlooked 

 he will retract his decision, otherwise his de- 

 cision is final. We do not advocate the discus- 

 sion between the National inspector and the 

 buyer over every piece of lumber inspected as 

 they are grading the car, but we think the Na- 

 tional inspector should call the grade that he 

 makes a piece to the buyer's grader and if the 

 buyer's grader has any radical reasons for dif- 

 fering with him the- piece can be thrown out and 

 upon finishing the car the two graders can take 

 the matter up and run over the comparatively 

 small amount, as a usual thing, which is thrown 

 out. We admit that it will take a little patience 

 to do this, but the educative process involved 

 and the evident fairness of the proposition will 

 help to reconcile the purchaser to the fact that 

 he has had a fair deal, and if the shipper wants 

 to be fair he should have no objections to this 

 method of procedure. Co. 



While the Inspection Bureau of not only 

 the National but all the other leading hard- 

 wood associations may reinspect lumber 

 "arbitrarily." which naturally it would do in 

 conformity with the specified rules, I doubt 

 if in any case it attempts to do so secretly. 

 On request, I believe that any traveling in- 

 spector of the National or Manufacturers' 

 Association would be perfectly willing to ex- 

 plain to a buyer his reasons for placing a 



pi ■ of lumber in a specific grade. In the 



greater number of cases where reinspection 

 is called for, the records show that the buyer 

 has been perfectly satisfied with the result. 

 The seller is usually the man who finds fault 

 with the outcome of reinspection. This comes 

 about quite naturally inasmuch as in a great 

 many cases the low-line boards and rejects 

 have been thrown out of the shipment, and 

 they inspect on a lower average than would 

 the entire lot of lumber. However, it is 

 doubtless true that improvements can be made 

 on the methods employed in reinspection, and 

 it certainly would seem fair that the buyer 

 should have something to say concerning the 

 machinery by which lumber that he has 

 bought on a specific set of rules is rein- 

 spected. — Editor. 



Wants Market for Dogwood. 



Agricultural College, Miss., March 20. — 

 Editor Hardwood Record: We have been re- 

 ferred to you by the Forestry Department at 

 Washington for information as to a market for 

 dogwood. We own some timberland on which 

 there is a quantity of this timber, the trees 

 ranging from 2 to 10 inches in diameter, and 

 would like to know if a market can be found 

 that it would pay us to cut and ship to. If you 

 can put me into communication with a firm 

 that uses the wood, or give me any other in- 

 formation, will greatly appreciate it. Kindly 

 advise to what lengths the wood should be cut. — 

 Co. 



We have supplied this correspondent with 

 a list of several buyers of dogwood bolts, 

 and any others who would like to be put 

 into communication with him kindly advise 

 this office. — Editor. 



