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■ i' your loBJi to 'JSn deurec-K. 



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: Is Klinple, and I will DUpply 



..iir 1..:; ..Ill ,.f the Ktonm until your Inthe 1h 



i-ontllntlon In the veneer ruttlnc room. If you 

 rnnnof ct (t '-v ••r'-nlnjr door" mid windows nnd puttInK ventllntom In 

 til.. r....f i...\. \..iir :ilr In III.. -Mine iiinnner Hint nir Ih moved In build- 

 liiL I Kspeclnlly keep wnrm nIr niovlnB 



..\ neer leaves It. 



iwit pile your cut sites lu bulk; put 



; ii.ers Into the drying mnelilnes until 



th'. -..ll.i .. .|\ ..f" iii..i.-i.ir. , ai I.a.-i. hns been disslnnted. Hy the time 

 the 1 Ml* vini.<>r has nrrlvi'd In front of the drier It ouRht to be prnc- 

 tlrnlly air dried, and the drier, instead of puttlnt: kinks Into the veneer, 

 ouKht to lake them out. 



It will not cost very much to rip up nn experimental plant for treating 

 logD In small quantities. I will ;:ladly supply .vou with a sketch : and 

 when you nro sntlsfled that my deductions are right, I can Inform you 

 on the strict Q. T. where you can procure an apparatus that will handle 

 veneer logs In commercial quantities. 



FoUowinK this address there was considerable discussion. Mr. Kraet- 

 tCT was asked to analyze the action which takes place in treating of 

 veneers and luuil>cr under steam pressure. He said that the sap in 

 wood, the same as is the case with glue, is but a chemical conipositioii. 

 Referring to ex|ieriments he has made to analyze wood, he said that 

 the first process was always to boil the wood in order to free the 

 water. He said that after the water is released setting takes place, 

 and that the sap cannot thcu-sour. 



Replying to the question as to whether or not steam under pressure 

 would injure the tissue of the wood and make it too soft to be put on 

 the lathe, he said that in his opinion no such result could possibly 

 follow. He said that this process had been used abroad with marked 

 success for thirty years. 



A. P. Goldsmith, who has done more or less experimenting along the 

 lines of treating logs with steam under pressure, said that he has 

 found the log is not ready for the lathe when it is merely heated 

 through. It must be thoroughly cooked in addition to the mere 

 application of heat, as for instance in the cooking of potatoes. He 

 said he boils all oak from thirty to forty hours. 



Mr. Kraetzer said that the use of steam has a different effect from 

 the use of boiled water, as an absolute temperature can be main- 

 tained, and as a result it can be easily determine'^ just how long a 

 period of steaming is recjuired. 



Mr. Goldsmith said he thought the log boiled properly is better 

 than the steamed log. He also suggested that where possible it is 

 better to air-dry stock before putting it in the mechanical dryer, 

 stating that the best dryer, after all, is a thorough circulation of air. 

 and that no .Iryer will do good work on veneers taken directly from 

 the knife. 



Mr. Jarrell asked Mr. Kraetzer if his remedy regarding steaming 

 of logs is not theoretical, and suggested that if lumber can be 

 treated with steam under pressure, he thought veneers could also be 

 so treated under proper regulations. Mr. Kraetzer suggested as his 

 opinion on this question that it would be necessary to pile the veneer 

 too loosely and hence reduce the capacity. He said it would be 

 feasible on stock % inch and uji thiek. 



Veneer Grading 



Following the discussion, G. A. Bell referred to an invitation 

 extended by interests representing the wire-botmd box people to dis- 

 cuss the question of inspection rules on wire-bound box stock. He 

 said the invitation came from one of the members of the commit- 

 tee of the wire-bound box people inquiring if the question would 

 come up at this meeting. 



In discussing the question Mr. Gorham said that he didn't think 

 the general inspection committee should recommend all rules, but 



thoU|{hl tlint the various clubs should iniike their individual rules and 

 Kubinit them to the i;enernl roinniittiv. 



V. T, .Inrrell then miidu n motion that the various clubs (jet 

 together and ninkc up their own rules, siilimitting them afterwards to 

 the general committee for its consideration, that committee to rrpmt 

 to the Decemlier convention. 



Assistant Hecretury Young then brought up an interesting e:i>i. 

 regarding inspection rules which involves u ilis]iut« between t»o 

 members of the asstwiation. It seems tlint about n year ago one oi 

 the memlters a.sked him regarding the rule for rotary veneer log run. 

 Mr. Young looked up his records at that time and wrot4< to the 

 inquirer, stating that the records showed that before June, 1010, the 

 rule was the same as at ]irescnt, with the addition of a ]iaragrnph 

 saying that e.ich sheet in face stock shouM cut 75 ]ier cent clear in 

 cutting (ix2^ inches or belter. Mr. Young also wrote that in 1910 this 

 paragra]ih was stricken from the rules and that he further advis<*d the 

 member that after this date, on the objection of some of the members, 

 this amendment to the rule was voided and the paragrujih reinstated. 



He stateil, however, that the rules as printed now do not include 

 that paragrajih, but ex])resscd himself as believing this was an error 

 in printing. 



Going to the specific case, he said that the inquiring meml>er sold 

 a qnantit.v of this stock to the other member on the basis of this 

 information, but that the other member had bought the stock with 

 the imderstanding that this paragraph had been stricken from tlio 

 rules. Ho asked for information on the subject. It was finally sug- 

 gested that the question should be referred to Mr. Roach, traveling 

 representative, for arbitration, and that tliO association should stand 

 the actual cost. 



Committee Reports 



Secretary Defebaugh, sjicaking extcmiioraneously for the rail- 

 road committee, said that the sub-committee of the lumber com- 

 mittee of the general classification committee is doing a great deal 

 of -work in changing the classification on lumber rates. He advised 

 that the veneer men should get together and keep in touch with 

 this proposition, and that they should have a regularly retained 

 traffic man who will be able to work in their behalf in these 

 matters. 



Mr. Dow, reporting for the membership committee, read the 

 names of ton applicants for membership to the association. All 

 applications were favorabh' acted upon. 



Reverting again to the traffic man, Mr. Groffman brought up 

 the question definitelj- of employing a traffic man. There was 

 some discussion on this question by members who have had experi- 

 ence in this respect with local bodies in their community, and also 

 which involved the discussion of various rates which are now 

 unfavorable to forest products which would be remedied if the 

 right kind of a man were employed. 



Mr. Spencer said that the various railroads in the Southwest 

 are gathering data in order to have veneer rates changed. He 

 said the efforts are based on a false idea of veneer profits, and 

 that the only remedy is valuation classification instead of thickness 

 classification. 



Mr. Lord said there is an indication on the part of the railroads 

 to get the valuation per 100 pounds of veneers, which -would indi- 

 cate that they are working to the end of putting veneers on a 

 valuation classification. 



C. T. .Jarrell moved that the railroad classification committee 

 meet with the uniform classification committee and discuss the 

 matter, and also that this committee decide regarding the employ- 

 ment of a traffic expert and report to the annual meeting in 

 December. The motion carried. 



Harry A. Wheeler's Address 



Harry A. Wheeler, president of the Chamber of Commerce of the 

 United States of America, then talked regarding the work of the 

 National Chamber of Commerce and the tremendous problems which 

 confront the business men of the country. 



The theme of Mr. Wheeler's talk was the evolution in the rela- 

 tion of business to the government, which must necessarily come 

 in order that there be not a condition of chaos as between business 

 and government and labor. He instanced the unfair advantage 



