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Meeting of l^orthern Loggers 



An extreiiioly protitable aud interestiiij.' lucetiiif,' of woods super- 

 intendents of Wisconsin and northern Michigan was held at 

 Green Bay, Wis., on Saturday, August 29, under the auspices of the 

 Northern Hemlock and Hardwood Manufacturers' Association. 

 The meeting was called to order by President Goodman and W. E. 

 Hollenbeck, woods superintendent of the J. W. Wells Lumber Com- 

 pany, Menominee, Mich., was chosen to act as chairman of the 

 gathering. 



\ great many important and practical subject's connected with 

 logging, feeding men anil the construction and maintenance of 

 camps were discussed. 



Cami' CONSTIIUCTION 

 The nieeting was opened by P. S. MeClurg of I'liillips, Wis., who 

 briefly described the wheel camps used by his company as follows: 

 We have used wheel camps for seven or eight years, aud find them to be 

 very satisfactory. Our sleeping cars are 40xi;jxl2 feet, and are equipped 

 on the inside witii single bunlis three tiers high, while in the middle of the 

 car, at both sides, we have a waste sink. Thirty men can be accommo- 

 dated nicely in oup of these cars. The dining cars are of the same dimen- 

 sions ns t' . I . ; iii^ .a.s, and contain small tables, 3x5 feet set endways. 

 This c;ii i ; i i i;o men. The cook's car is also of the same dimen- 



sions ;i' I I I :.il one end of it is reserved for the ice box and a 



place fiii I .liii^ . 11 M.lis. In the winter time the openings between the 

 cars are covcnd with heavy covtrs, so as to keep the cold out. Each 

 bunk has n separate window, and there are 10 large ventilators at the top 

 of each car. The barn cars are 40x10x13 feet, and will hold 14 horses. 

 One logging superintendent stated that he thought there is more 

 or less expense incurred in moving the cars, as side tracks have 

 to be built every time the camp is moved. On the other hand, the 

 discussion which followed showed that the time which is saved in 

 moving with wheel camps, will more than cover the expense of 

 building the tracks. For instance, wheel camps are run right into 

 the operation, while with other camps the men are sometimes re- 

 quired to walk several miles to and from work, losing many hours 

 in so doing. Mr. McLurg stated that they usually move on Sunday 

 morning, and that it only takes about five hours in so doing. The 

 discussion also brought out the fact that it is much easier to keep 

 a wheel camp clean, and that the men are well satisfied with 

 camp cars. 



J. B. Galbraith of the North Western Lumber Company, Stanley, 

 Wis., described a set of small, portable camps made to set on flat 

 cars when moved — each sleeping car to accommodate from twelve 

 tb sixteen men, dining car and other parts of the outfit being in 

 similar proportions. The bill of material for the construction of a 

 sleeping car Mr. Galbraith gave as follows: 



2 pieces 8x8- — 12 No. 1 hemlock, rough. 

 2 pieces 6x8 — 16 No. 1 hemlock, rough. 

 2 pii CCS 6x.8 — 14 No. 1 hemlock, rough, 

 ii pipces 6x8 — 12 No. 1 hemlock, rough. 

 4 pieces 6x6 — 12 No. 1 hemlock, rough. 

 12 pieces 2x6—12 No. 2 hemlock, SIB. 

 4 piice5 2x8 — 10 No. 2 hemlock, SIE. 

 50 pieces 2x4 — 10 No. 2 hemlock, SIE. 

 4 pieces 2x4 — 16 No. 2 hemlock, S»E. 

 8 pieces 2x4—14 No. 2 hemlock, SIE. 

 7 pieces 2x12 — 12 No. 1 hemlock, S2S. 

 1,800 feet No. 3 hemlock boards, SIS. 

 1,000 feet 4" No. 2 pine drop siding. 

 1,200 feet 4" No. 2 oommon basswood ceiling. 

 400 feet 3" cull hardwood flooring. 

 4.-III fe,.t 0" No. 2 bvcilock, D&M. 

 400 leet liDc.il, No. !SOCr, pine moulding. 

 200 feet No. 2 pine beards, S2S. 



4 sash 8x10—6 It.— 1%. 

 1 door 2-6x6-6 — 1% No. 2 pine. 4 panel. 



Cost of lumber $121.95 



Rooflng, p.tper and hardware 12.00 



Labor 60.00 



Painting 15.00 



Ventilator 5.50 



Total ?214.45 



Store bouse or oflico car same as sleeper. 

 Kitchen ear $30.00 more. 



Sleeping car equipped with Haggard & Marcusson Company's iron bunks 

 4'x6'5", cost «6.7.'') f. o. b. Chicago— 4'6"x6'5" cost S7.00 f. o. b. Chicago. 



-Mattresses aud ticks nia.le by Horn & Blum, Eau Claire. Mattresses cost 

 .$1.50. Ticks cost ?1.65 f. o. b. Eau Claire. 



Ventilators and roof saddles from Marshall-Wells Hardware Company. 

 Ventilators cost $4.45. Saddles cost 85 cents f. o. b. Duluth. 



Stoves made by Detroit Stove Works, Herald box stoves, 38", cost at 

 Stanley ?12.00 each. 



J. S. Griffith of tlie Mohr Lumber Company, told of the sec- 

 tional camps which he uses that have proved satisfactory both in 

 original cost of construction from Ipw-grade lumber, and in ease 

 of taking down and setting up again. A number of others con- 

 tributed to the discussion, and much sentiment appeared in favf* 

 of some style of camp that can be readily taken down and trans- 

 ported to a new operation so that, the loss of material in abandon-*:!, 

 camps is obviated. 



C.-vxip Welfare 



The most interesting and important talk on the program was 

 given by Matt Daly of Duluth, who for the past eight yeais has 

 been doing remarkable missionary work among the camps of Wis- 

 consin and northern Minnesota. Mr. Daly spoke in a most direct 

 and practical fashion, and his remarks were received with the 

 closest attention and heartiest approval. The main points which 

 he made were as follows: 



I Ih l;.iii tliii work In the lumber camps of northern Wisconsin, in 1007, 

 'I II' liii^ iliii.ii'.;h twenty-nine camps, covering the Bad River Reservation. 

 Ill' I mill! I niiUoad, South Shore railroad, in which territory was located 

 till' St.arns Lumber Company, Schrooder l.uiiilur Ccimpnny, and the HIncs 

 Lumber Company, employing at that tini. . i i .no men ,Vt the 



camps operated by the Stearns L\imber C.i ; nl river, I found 



that the men did not quit their v/ork. i ausc of this, I 



found that ll.ev were not required to le:n ^ , luie daylight, and 



they w.'ii in iiiiir iiiiii.s at darlt — they also ale thou- nogn meal at the 

 camp. Ill M II, I I found fair sanitary conditions. These men were 

 not enii.l ...I III i_M i.ilior agencies. On the same river, a jobI)cr getting 

 out timljii ini In.- .si.arns Lumber Company, running four camps, and 

 engaging his own men, at no time employing more than 600 men, had on 

 his payroll in five months more than 2,000 men, or 500 more than were 

 needed to operat'- jl ntin- t.-rritm-y wbieli I covered. This man got his 



men til r- . - ■ m :i_.i . i. ni \-iiI.:i..|, Sii;m lim-, ImUith 



and Mil ._iii_ ; > W hil- lie had 



tour e.i .1 1 - ■ Than one 



camp 'I -■ ..II, ,i,.ii\ \. ..ri.jii_ i:,u ni.n in the 



same len-^tli •■( time. I l-av- hail my hreakiast in one of this jobber's 

 camps at 3 :30 in the morning. Thi.s man had at one place, two of his 

 largest camps, where there were possibly lifty teams. One morning when 

 he went to start work he found that the lo,ngest piece of leather he had, 

 in the way of harness, was not six inches. It seems to me that he was 

 logging at a financial loss. 



In 1908. I began to travel in Minnesota, in Cook. Lake and St. T.ouis 

 counties on the north ^hore of Lake Supi ri .r, ..- rinz n rli fru,. ,- 1^1 

 miles, meeting an average of 3,000 men ;. : i i' ■ ii.i . ', 



Pigeon River Lumber Company, .Alger Sii . i , i n I ■ 



Lumber Company, Scott-GrafE Lumber Coin! II . \ii mi .ml i.i, iii. 

 Lumber Company, and the Johnson-Wentwortb l.uinln r r,,iiip;iin. 



In 1908 I could cpeak to about SO per cent of the iiien. In making 

 a study of the men in the cariip the pa.st winter, I I'oiiml that I can now 

 speak to only about 20 per cent. The others ai-e foreigners who have 

 not learned our language. These men do r.ot understand the work. Take 

 case in point. In a Red Cliff camp three of these men came to the office 

 looking for work. One man could say "cant hook" and the foreman 

 thought he was a cant book man -and put him to work decking. He was 

 back in the office in two hours, having got the point of the cant hook 

 in the back of his neck. The foreman and I got two cant hooks and tried 

 to And out just how he was using the hook in order to get it in his neck, 

 but the man still holds the secret, and as be cannot speak English, we will 

 probably never know. One of the other men the foreman put on a bad hay 

 hill. In about one hour after placing him there we returned to see how 

 he was making out. He was very faithful. We found him in the same 

 place where we left him putting more hay on that same spot. He had no 

 knowledge of why he was putting the hay there, nor how much to put, but 

 1 e wo-ild have put all the hay at the camp on It if the foreman bad not 

 stopped him, so that he was wasting hay, endangering the lives -of men 

 and horses, and running a chance of stopping the work. Further up the 

 hill was a man, commonly called a "white man," who understood his worL 

 and was usinsr i-ay, saving the lives of horses and men and helping the 

 work along. This man tnew that he did not receive any more wages 

 than the man who did not understand his work, and the man who did 

 not understand his work knew that he received as much as the man 

 who did understand his work. Therefore, neither one had any incentive 

 to work to the company's advantage. In such cases as this, I feel that 

 .$5.00 a month added to the worthy man's wa.ges would be a wise invest- 



