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BO that we can intelMgently discuss whether or 

 not It Is wise to change the rules? Therefore, 

 It seems to me the question before us is this — 

 Shall we open the door for a discussion leading 

 up to a possible change of the rules? I don't 

 know anything about changing the rules. I 

 would prefer to leave that with a good and suf- 

 ficient committee. They can tnik it over better 

 than wc can. 



IIow can we get together? By having uniform 



KI>\V. J. YOIXG. JIADISOX. WIS. 



inspection rules that will be good everywhere. 

 I would rather have a single set of rules, and 

 a single set of intelligent inspectors to interpret 

 these rules, than to have two sets. So would 

 you all. It is a business proposition. You sell 

 according to the rules which "will give you the 

 most easy kind of grade and you buy according 

 to the rules giving you the highest quality of 

 lumber. Why not have one set that will meet 

 the wants of the manufacturers and the wants 

 of the wholesalers as well as the consumer, and 

 then we will all be on a par, an equal basis. 

 and have a certain set of rules for everybody in 

 the association. I believe the association will 

 establish the wisest set of rules possible. It 

 seems to me we should point the way, and if 

 anybody can suggest a better combination of 

 rules than we have, let's have them. 



Mr. rritchard- — I waut to answer the ques- 

 tion asked by Mr. Scatcherd. The reason for 

 asking for a suspension of the rules is to give 

 the Inspection Rules Committee an opportunity 

 to present their report. According to the Buf- 

 falo resolution we haven't any right to present 

 any report for your consideration. That is the 

 pui'pose of this motion to adopt the report 

 suspending the Buffalo resolution. 



Mr. Scatcherd- — I want to be understood in this 

 matter. I don't want to shut off discussion on 

 changing the rules of inspection, but I do be- 

 lieve we should go at it in the right way. The 

 rules ''ommittee has a right to make us a re- 

 port at any time because they are a part of us. 

 But let us have the reasons why we should 

 suspend the resolution? That is all I contend 

 for. I want specific reasons for the changes 

 we should adopt. If they are right, we should 

 adopt them. If they are not. we should not 

 adopt them. Don't begin consideration by break- 

 ing faith with the trade at large. 



President Russe — I would certainly rule that a 

 discussion of a change in the rules is out of 

 order until the Buffalo agreement is suspended. 

 W^e agreed at Buffalo, by passing a resolution. 

 that we would not change the rules for three 

 years. And if a discussion should come up about 

 changing the rules when we have agreed not to 

 change them, that would certainly be a waste 



of our time, and I would rule it out of order. 



Mr. Scatcherd — You put yourself on record as 

 to what you are going to do, and I want to 

 change that. Y'ou say to me "why"? Y^ou 

 wouldn't change it until I told you why, would 

 you? That is all I ask. I want to know the 

 reason why. 



Mr. Babcock — -When is the exact, termination 

 (tf the Buffalo resolution? 



I'resident Russe^December, 1008 — eighteen 

 months from now. 



Mr. Babcock^ — It is a wise man who changes 

 his mind. Whether the resolution can be or will 

 be suspended doesn't mean that any radical 

 changes of the inspection rules will follow. I 

 agree that you will have to suspend the resolu- 

 tion if you want to make any changes. The 

 men here advocating a change, undoubtedly are 

 backing and supporting this association. The 

 same men ought to have and will have some- 

 thing to do with the new rules. Let them make 

 such rules as we can back in the same spirit 

 that we back the association in all its work. 

 [Applause.] 



Mr. Guenther^There is no intention on my 

 part to retard the progress of this convention. 

 I simply thought, in order to satisfy Mr. 

 Scatcherd. that it is the universal opinion that 

 the contract should be shortened, it should be 

 laid on the table until 3 o'clock and we can 

 discuss it this afternoon. 



The question being on the amendment to lay 

 the report of the committee on officers' reports 

 on the table until 3 o'clock, was duly secouded, 

 but not agree*! tn. 



The Agreement Suspended and Amended 

 Rules Read. 



The question recurring on the original motion 

 to adopt the report of said committee, which 

 was duly seconded was carried. 



Mr. Fathauer — Some time ago the secretary, 

 under instructions of the Board of Directors, 

 mailed a letter to you. which you no doubt have 

 all received, asking you for suggestions per- 

 taining to the present rules of inspection, so 

 as to enable the committee to present its re- 

 port in case the Buffalo resolution was sus- 

 pended, which you have already done. I wish 

 to state to you that each and every communi- 

 cation, whether from an individual or a col- 

 lective body, received due and full considera- 

 tion. Before the committee reports I would ask 

 that printed copies of the report be distributed. 



Mr. I'almer — I want to make a suggestion, 

 to avoid any suspicion that this is a cut and 

 dried program to be shoved through without 

 giving the members a full opportunity to know 



just exactly what we are going to vote upon, 

 that further discussion of a change of rules 

 be deferred until 2 o'clock this afternoon. 



Mr. Guenther^Tbat was my amendment In 

 the first place. [Laughter.] 



Mr. Palmer's motion, given as a suggestion, 

 was seconded and carried. 



Mr. Fathauer — When we revised our report 

 we found there were some few errors. We have 

 a supplement we will read in connection with 

 the printed report which has been distributed. 



Mr. Fathauer here read the printed report 

 and supplemental changes in counection there- 

 with as follows : 



Changks in Rclks. 



Hinder caption GENERAL INSTRUCTION'S, 



Add a new paragraph, viz. : Exceptions to 

 the general rules are stated under the caption 

 of the respective woods. 



Referring to our present I'aragraph 1. sub- 

 stitute the following: inspectors inspecting un- 

 der these rules are instructed to use their best 

 judgment based on these rules. 



Paragraph 2, change the phraseology which 

 reads. "Inspection must be made from the worst 

 side of the board." etc., and substitute. "In- 

 spection must be made from the poor side of 

 the piece." 



Paragraph 3, substitute the following : "Lum- 

 ber should be properly manufactured, of good 

 average widths and lengths. It should be 

 sawed plump and even thickness, and have par- 

 allel edges, and all ragged and bad ends should 

 be trimmed off. Tapering lumber in standard 

 lengths must be measured one-third the length 

 of the piece from the narrow end. Minimum 

 widths mentioned in any grade of lumber must 

 be of full width." 



Paragraph 4. Tn the measurement of lum- 

 ber nf random widths fractions of over ^/^ foot 

 as shown on board rule, must be counted up to 

 the next higher figure : fractions of less than 

 i-j foot must be counted back to the next lower 

 figure : fractions of exactly ij foot must be 

 divided equally between buyer aud seller. 



The number of detects admitted in any piece 

 must be determined in accordance with the 

 surface measurement as detined by this rule, 



A piece tally in feet must be made of all ran- 

 dom widths lumber. When strips or stock 

 widths arc measured, then a piete tally show- 

 ing widths and lengths must be made. All 

 lumber in standard grades must h'^ tallied face 

 or surface measure, and the adilitional thick- 

 ness over 1 inch to l)e added. AH lumber less 

 than 1 inch in thickness must be counted face 

 measure. 



J. S. TRAINER. CHICAGO. 



I'nevenly sawu lumber must be accepted and 

 inspected into any of the grades of No. 3 com- 

 mon and better to which its quality entitles 

 it; must be tallied at the standard thickness 

 of the piece measured at its thinnest part and 

 must not be more than 1 'IG inch tliicker at 

 any point in stock cut V2 inches or less thick, 

 or more than % inch thicker in ■"■s aud % inch 

 stock, or more than l^ inch thicker in 1 inch 

 to 2 inch stock, or more than % inch thicker 

 in 2i/-i inch or ^ip stock. Lumber showing 



