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feet of lumher. Today there ate about 050 mil- 

 lion acres, with less than half the amount of 

 timber there was in the beginning. At our pres- 

 ent rate we are cutting and using about 20 

 billion cubic feet every year, while the forests 

 that we have left are not growing over 7 bil- 

 lion cubic feet. If things are allowed to run 

 along as they have been it will not be very many 

 .\'ears before we will be up against a timber 

 ijimine. The question at present is, "What 

 should be done ?" 



It is a recognized fact that no matter how- 

 much other material is used as a substitute for 

 wood our increasing population will keep the 

 total amount used to about the same as now. 

 The only remedies are reforestation and con- 

 servative lumbering. 



Reforestation is made more practical by the 

 fact that over 25 per cent of the land of 

 the United States is too rough to grow any- 

 thing successfully but timber. The very magni- 

 tude of the proposition and the long wait for 

 tinancial returns makes it a government work. 



Lumbering is far more conservative than for- 

 merly and will continue to be more conservative 

 as the price of lumber rises and makes it pay. 



There are two ways that hardwoods today 

 are being wasted that I wish to call to your at- 

 tention. 



The iirst is the cutting of all lumber into even 

 lengths. By far the greater part of hardwoods 

 is cut up into small pieces after it reaches the 

 factory. The consumer is not a loser, as he 

 can use the odd length. Then what difference 



JAMIiS BUCKLEY. BROOIvVILLE, 

 TREASURER. 



does it make if the board is an odd instead of 

 an even length? 



The second is in the sawing. The pine manu- 

 facturers cut their stock inch thick for inch, 

 but we hardwood manufacturers cut our stock 

 inch and one-sixteenth for inch. Every time 

 we ship a car of 10,000 feet we practically give 

 away 625 feet. I think I may safely say that 

 lumber cut inch thick will in the majority of 

 cases work just as well as the lumber cut inch 

 and one-sixteenth. It does in pine. Why won't 

 it in hardwoods? 



The President : We would like to have a little 

 discussion with reference to this forestry report 

 submitted by Mr. Burkholder. 



F. S. Underbill : Mr. President. I want to say 

 that I have been much interested in the report 

 made by Mr. Burkholder, and I think that if 

 there is any part of tlie forest in our United 

 States that we ought to be careful of, it is that 

 part in which this body is interested. I be- 

 lieve that it will be many years before we will 

 suffer anything like a famine in the soft woods, 

 but we are having a very heavy demand today 

 for all classes of hardwood. It is so heavy that 

 even the substitute hardwoods are coming into 

 demand, in place of the old reliable oak. walnut 

 and mahogany, and even those substitutes are 

 now in some cases hard to procure. Men are 

 gunning for gum, and that is something that a 

 few years ago we would hardly have thought 

 was coming so soon upon us. The suggestion 



of Mr. Burkholder in regard to the lengths of 

 hardwoods, I do not think is at all out of place. 

 So much \ hardwood is used for cutting up pur- 

 poses, and if the lumber shipped, as to per- 

 centage of cutting, is suitable for the purpose 

 into which it is to be manufactured, it does not 

 seem to me to make any difference whether a 

 board is eleven feet long or twelve feet long, if 

 it cuts up right, and no matter how some like 

 to have their piles trimmed up nicely in their 

 yards, or are accustomed to the old system of 

 ten, twelve, fourteen and sixteen-foot lengths. 

 If we are going to help the future generations 

 to have a supply of hardwood, and at the same 

 time enable the hardwood dealers to put upon 

 the market goods that will not be exorbitant in 

 price, it certainly seems wise that wherever a 

 tree will cut to advantage in odd lengths, that 

 those odd lengths should be utilized, and not 

 trimmed off and left in the woods to rot. I am 

 glad that this association has always taken 

 such an interest in the matter of forestry, and 

 has kept its place as an advocate of forest 

 preservation, and has retained in office its old 

 standby and defender, to do what he could to 

 represent the association in matters of forest 

 preservation and of reforestation. I thank you, 

 gentlemen. [Applause.] 



Mr. Burkholder : Mr. President, I have here 

 a resolution which I desire to offer for the con- 

 sideration of the convention. 



Eesclution Commending Gifford Pinchot's 

 Work Adopted 



Whereas, The Indiana Hardwood Lumber- 

 men's Association, being in the heartiest sym- 

 pathy and fullest accord witli the work of the 

 Forest Service of the United States Department 

 of Agriculture, as fostered and furthered by the 

 recently deposed head of that service, Gifford 

 Pinchot, that it be hereby 



Resolved, That this association goes on record 

 as endorsing the past policy of the Forest Service 

 and the work of Gifford Pinchot in the effort 

 to preserve for the mass of the American people 

 the natural resources of the public domain ; and 

 in the effort to restrain the graft of indi- 

 viduals and corporations from control of tim- 

 ber, grazing privileges, water power and mines, 

 without adequate compensation to the govern- 

 ment ; and he it further 



Resolved, That a vote of thanks be tendered 

 to Gifford Pinchot for his able, patriotic and 

 unselfish services on tiehalf of the people of this 

 country. 



The President : Gentlemen, it has been moved 

 and seconded that the resolutions, as read, be 

 adopted. Is there any discussion? We would 

 like to hear an expression of opinion on this 

 matter. 



Mr. Underbill : Mr. President, you will par- 

 don me if I take this opportunity to say some- 

 thing that may start someone else to talking on 

 this subject. There is no subject under con- 

 sideration or under discussion by the Congress or 

 administration of the United States today more 

 important than that of forestry. It means so 

 much to the coming generations that our forests 

 be properly cared for. We are not so much 

 alarmed today about any depredations that are 

 being made by men upon the forests as we are 

 by the possibilities of forest fires, which destroy 

 annually, approximately, as much as the lumber- 

 men cut off ; and if there is one man in the 

 United States who has done a work that is 

 worthy of the praise of every citizen of this 

 country, if there is one man who has given 

 thought and care and his life to arousing not 

 only lumbermen to act witli caution as to how 

 they go into their woodlands, but to arouse the 

 whole nation to think upon the subject of forest 

 preservation and the conservation of other 

 natural resources, that man is Gifford Pinchot, 

 and he deserves all the honor and praise that 

 we are able to give him. If by adopting this 

 memorial we can in any way show that the lum- 

 bermen of the United States appreciate the work 

 he has done in the past, it seems to me that it 

 is a small thing for this association to do, recog- 

 nizing the splendid stand that he has taken 

 and the great work that he has accomplished. 



Now there may be differences of opinion among 

 those of this body as to whether Mr. I'inchot has 

 acted wisely, or not, in connection with the con- 

 troversy that led up to his dismissal, but there 

 can be no difference of opinion as to the fact 

 that he has given years of his life to doing a 

 great work for the people of the United States 

 in connection with the Forest Service, and that 

 it the Forest Service is effective today, and is 

 doing anything for the future generations of our 

 people, it is largely due to the thought and care, 

 the energy and the wisdom of Gifford Pinchot 

 [Applause.] 



Mr. Shepard : Mr. President, we hear a good 

 deal of hot air about what we ought to do, and 

 everybody says. "Amen," but I doubt if many of 

 us here have planted any trees during the past 

 year, or really tried to keep any from being cut 

 down. I think that probably most of us are 

 more instrumental in cutting down trees than 

 we are in planting them. Now this man referred 

 to in these resolutions has either done some- 

 thing or he has not. and I think it is very im- 

 portant that we should commend a man who 

 has really done something. I think these reso- 

 lutions should be adopted. Here is a chance for 



G. O. WORLAND. EVANSVILLE, WHO INSTI- 

 GATED INTERESTING DISCUSSION 

 ON MANUFACTURING COSTS. 



us to commend some real action, not "hot air." 

 [Applause.] 



The president put the question on the 

 motion to adopt the resolutions as read. 

 The motion prevailed. 



The President : I would inquire if the com- 

 mittee on the reports of officers is ready to re- 

 port ? 



Van B. Perrine : Mr. President, the com- 

 mittee recommends and suggests that the re- 

 ports of the officers be approved as made. 



The report of the committee was adopted. 



The President': We will now take up the 

 next order of business, which is new business. 

 Has anyone anything to offer? 



Discussion on the Corporation Tax Law 

 J. V. Stimson ; Mr. President, I believe that 

 the communication I have here comes under that 

 head. This is a letter from the Illinois Manu- 

 facturers' Association, with reference to the cor- 

 poration tax law. Business associations all over 

 the country are taking some action with reference 

 to this matter, and there seems to be a general 

 disposition to oppose and to recommend the re- 

 peal of that law. The Illinois association gives 

 three reasons for opposing the law : 



