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The meeting then adjourned. 

 There were present : 



A. F. Anderson, Cadillac. 



H. Ballou. Cobbs & Mitchell, Inc.. Cadillac. 



Charles A. Bigelow, Kneoland-Bigelow Com- 

 (pany and Kneeland, Buell & Bigelow Company, 

 Bay City. 



Charles E. Brewer, secretary National Classi- 

 fication Committee. 



R. Case, Case & Cartier. Kingsley. 



C. W. Case, Case & Cartier, Kingsley. 



E. C. Clark. Peninsula Bark & Lumber Com- 

 pany, Sauit Ste. Marie. 



W. C. Culver, Sterns Salt & Lumber Company, 

 (Ludington. 



n. H. Day, Glen Haven. 



F. A. Dlggins, Murphy & Diggins, Cadillac. 

 Charles R. Duggan, Jaclison & Tindle, Peils- 



ton. 



O. A. Felger, Hackley-Phelps-Bonnell Company, 

 <3rand Rapids. 



Thomas Forman, Ttomas Forman Company, 

 Detroit. 



R. Il.inson, Sailing-Hanson Company. Grayling. 



W. C. Hull. Oval Wood Dish Company and 

 Smith ..*c Hull Company. Traverse City. 



R. H. Jenks, Cleveland Land & Timber Com- 

 pany, Raber. 



Elmer Klise, A. B. Kllse Lumber Company, 

 Sturgeon Bay. 



J. C. Knox, secretary, Cadillac. 



N. M. Langdon, Antrim Iron Company, Mance- 

 lona. 



0. L. Larson, Buckley & Douglas Salt & Lum- 

 ber Company, Manistee. 



C. T. Mitchell, Mitchell Brothers Company, 

 Cadillac. 



1. R. Myers, Richardson Lumber Company, 

 Bay City aiid .Vlpena. 



A. W. Newark, Cadillac Handle Company, 

 Cadillac. 



Bruce Odell, Cummer-Diggins Company, Cadil- 

 lac. 



Robert H. Rayburn, Island Mills Lumber Com- 

 pany, Alpena. 



John C. Ross, Ross & Wentworth, Bay City. 



O. J. Smith, R. G. Peters Salt & Lumber Com- 

 pany, East Lake. 



J, Sullivan, Cedar. 



G. VonPlaten, Boyne City. 



M. L. Williams, Williams Brothers Company, 

 Cadillac. 



.John S. Wcidman, Mount Pleasant. 



W. D. Young. W. X). Young & Co., Bay City. 



Hardwood Record Mail Bag 



Credit Where Credit Is Due 



BOYNE CiTV, Mich., July 27. — Editor Hard- 

 AVOOD Record : I notice what you have stated in 

 your last Issue regarding the tramways which 

 we are putting in at the new mill at Iron 

 Mountain, and wish to say that the idea is not 

 •original with mc, but that we got this from 

 parties using this system at Gravenhurst, On- 

 tario. This system is being used to some con- 

 siderable extent in Canada and is giving good 

 satisfaction. Kindly correct in your next Issue. 



G. vox Platen. 



Not Pleased with Hardwood Inspection 

 Affairs 



Grand Haven, Mich., July 20. — Editor Hard- 

 wood Record : On page 21 of your issue of July 

 25 I find some very interesting reading. I have 

 found interesting reading in your paper hereto- 

 fore, but this is the limit. 



The article is headed. "What Log Run Means." 

 I venture to say that not one out of one hun- 

 <Jred manufacturers that use lumber has seen 

 this article, or knows that "log run" in ash, 

 oak or similar woods means No. 3 Common 

 and better. Michigan ash. as it usually cuts, 

 turns out about 40 per cent No. 3 Common. If 

 the price is to remain the same, and I doubt 

 not the object of the hardwood association Is 

 to maintain the price at the old figure, you can 

 «ee where a buyer is going to get off. It means 

 that the sale of these woods will not be made 

 In what is called "log run," but will drift into 

 strictly graded lumber. There has been a 

 tightening up by the hardwood manufacturers 

 ■on their grades, and that has thrown prac- 

 tically all of the business into the hands of 

 scalpers, so that a large majority of the hard- 

 wood lumber is now handb.'d by these_scalpers. 



Manufacturers, as a rule, have lost faith in 

 all inspection rules because they never could tell 

 from one day's end to the other what the rules 

 were to be. Less than two years ago the rule 

 was made that substituted sound cuts for clear 

 cuttings, but now "log run" Includes No. 3 

 Common. What the next move will be the Lord 

 ■only knows. The man who uses up the lumber 

 has never been consulted and has never had 

 a word to say about the fixing of these arbi- 

 trary rules. 



The howl is going up all over the country 

 Against trusts and combinations. It looks to 

 the writer like one of the worst, and one of 

 the meanest, because one of the most under- 

 handed, is the lumber trust. They are not 

 ■decent enough to be open and above board, but 

 from the caliber of the men who are engaged 

 In the business nothing better could be ex- 

 pected. 



Challenge Refrigerator Company, 



II. F. Harbeck, President. 



Wants Three-Year-Old Felloe Stock 



Rock Island Ar.senal, Rock Island, III., 

 July 23. — Editor Hardwood Record ; I am 

 writing to again inquire it you can give me 

 the necessary information which will place me 

 in communication with parties who can furnish 

 stock for felloes, of the following dimensions : 

 5"x6"x2', or any multiple ; to be of white oak, 

 seasoned at least three years. 



I know it is very difBcult to obtain seasoned 

 stock of the dimensions above, but I am very 

 anxious to secure any that exists, if possible. 



One of our correspondents, J. S. Houston 

 & Co., Chicago, III., kindly enclosed a clipping 

 from your paper showing where you had in- 

 serted a copy of my letter of April 23. 



Thanking you for your kindness and awaiting 

 your reply with interest, I am, 



F. E. HoBBS. 



Deprecates Timber Fire Loss Reports 



Grand Rapids. Wis., July 26. — Editor Hard- 

 wood Record : In discussing reports of loss to 

 logs and timber by forest fires this season, I 

 generally maintain that most reports should be 

 discounted by at least 500 to 1,000 per cent on 

 timber, but usually accept the figures shown in 

 reports of loss by fire of logs and lumber. 



The article In Hardwood Record of July 25 

 under Wausau items mentions that the Arpin 

 Lumber Company, of Arpin, Wis., lost 4.000,000 

 feet of logs near Exeland by flr«. The Arpin 

 Hardwood Lumber Company has had banked by 

 the settlers 81,860 feet of logs at Exeland. The 

 report to us was that a few of the logs were 

 burned. The loss probably amounted to about 

 4,000 feet and not 4,000,000, as mentioned in 

 the Record. 



The Arpin Hardwood Lumber Company is lo- 

 cated at Atlanta, Wis. 



D. J. Aepin, 

 President, John Arpin Lumber Company. 



Wants Basswood and Red Gum Dimension 

 Stock 



The Record is in receipt of a letter from 

 a prominent piano manufacturing concern, 

 stating that it is in the market for 



10,000 pieces 2"x4%"x4' 9" basswood. 



10,000 pieces 2"x4i4"x-l' 9" basswood, 



10,000 pieces l%"x2%"x-l' 9" basswood. 



10,000 pieces ]%"x2V.;"x4' 9" basswood. 



These dimensions are ripping sizes, must 

 be worked from dry stock, as it would w.orp 

 and check otherwise; must be free from knots 

 and other defects. 



Also 300,000 pieces 4"x5"xl0' red gum. 

 Must be perfect stock without defects and 



hearts. Small amount of sap regarded as 

 no defect. 



The inquirer has been referred to the lead- 

 ing baaswood and gum producers of the coun- 

 try, and any others who would like to figure 

 on this requisition can have the address by 

 writing this office. — Editor. 



New Wagon and Carriage Woodstock Club 



The Eecord is in receipt of the following 

 communication from F. A. Curtis, secretary 

 of tlie newly organized Wagon and Carriage 

 Woodstock Club, whose ofBce is at 307 Park- 

 front Building, Austin Station, Chicago: 



Austin Station, Chicago, July 26. — Editor 

 Hardwood Record : The manufacturers of 

 turned and shaped vehicle material, consisting 

 of singletrees, neckyokes, doubletrees and shaped 

 wagon stock, held a meeting in St. Louis at 

 the Southern hotel. July 19, and organized the 

 Wagon and Carriage Woodstock Club, with of- 

 ficers and executive committee indicated by , 

 this letterhead, the office of the club being 

 located in Chicago. 



The object of this new association is to con- 

 serve the fast decreasing supply of raw ma- 

 terial by the standardization of sizes and the 

 establishment of uniform and standard grades 

 and a standard list : also to promote a more 

 fraternal feeling among the manufacturers In 

 the line to the end that improvement may be 

 made in methods of manufacture. 



Nearly all of the manufacturers of the country 

 were represented at the meeting and results 

 promise to secure the objects sought. No ref- 

 erence was made to the matter of selling price 

 and no attempt is made to establish any fixed 

 basis, but conditions pertaining to raw material, 

 labor and factory supplies indicate the neces- 

 sity of obtaining more money for the finished 

 products and for the modification of grades that 

 will admit of good hickory material being used 

 to some extent in vehicle construction, though 

 it may contain minor defects which do not Im- 

 pair the strength of the material. 



Wagon &. Carriage Woodstock Cldb, 



F. A. Curtis, Secretary. 



Wants Persimmon Lumber 



The Eecokd is in receipt of a communi- 

 cation from a prominent hardwood flooring 

 and parquetry manufacturing house, stating 

 that it would like to get into communication 

 with producers of persimmon lumber. Any- 

 one interested in negotiating with this con- 

 cern can have the address by writing this 

 ofifice.— Editor. 



' Mill and Logging Waste 



The Record is in receipt of the following 

 communication from McGarvey Cline, director 

 of the Forest Products Laboratory at Madi- 

 son, Wis. It is a subject that should interest 

 a large number of the readers of Hardwood 

 Record, and they should address Mr. Cline 

 on this subject. — Editor. 



Madison, Wis., July 21. — Editor Hardwood 

 Record : The Forest Products Laboratory wishes 

 to make a thorough and comprehensive study 

 of different problems bearing on the use of 

 mill and logging wastes. The laboratory is 

 chiefly interested in the possibilities of using 

 such wastes In the manufacture of wood pulp, 

 fiber board, and other fiber products ; alcohol, 

 turpentine, wood creosote, and other products 

 of wood distillation. It Is also interested in 

 mechanical means of using such wastes in the 

 manut^ture of toys, built-up boards, and other 

 miscellaneous articles. 



