560 Report S.A.A. Advancement of Science. 



The voice of the ratepayer should be heard on this question. He 

 was quite convinced that notliing had been said there that day, and 

 no figures had been produced, which would justify the Legislature 

 of Cape Colony in endowing a fresh University — at anyrate, for the 

 present. 



Mr. J. Lyle (Bloemfontein) remarked that perhaps the best 

 contribution which he could make to the discussion would be to say 

 a few words as to the position which the Orange River Colony 

 intended to take up in the matter. He asked Dr. Kolbe to take 

 from the Orange River Colony to the University Council their thanks 

 for the politeness and courtesy with which the Orange River Colony 

 had always been treated. They had always found that the Council 

 was willing to give them every consideration, and, in fact, had some- 

 times gone out of its way to consult them. The Council was always 

 ready to act on any suggestions brought forward, although up to the 

 present the Orange River Colony had not become a " contributing 

 colony." They in the Orange River Colony had always discouraged 

 the attempts of High Schools to become Colleges, and to profess to 

 give University education. They had found it wise to concentrate all 

 their energies on the Grey College, Bloemfontein. This institution 

 was founded fifty years ago by Sir George Grey, with the purpose 

 that it should be a University College. In the deed of gift this was 

 stated most distinctly. It was intended for the training of teachers, 

 ministers, and men who wished to enter the learned professions, 

 although the intention had not been adhered to. A very striking 

 thing was the almost pathetic love which the people in the Orange 

 River Colony had for this College. It was only natural, therefore, 

 that they should concentrate all their efforts on developing the possi- 

 bilities of this institution. He should like to support Dr. Kolbe in 

 his statement that the Cape University had shewn not only the 

 capacity, but a great desire to evolve along the lines making for 

 efficiency, and for the maintenance of a proper standard of University 

 education in this country. A few weeks ago the Orange River 

 Colony, Transvaal, and Natal were represented at a meeting in Cape 

 Town, at which he was present, and, when writmg his report of that 

 meeting, he actually put down that they met there the representatives 

 of the Victoria College, the Rhodes University College, and the South 

 African College, whereas he was told they had actually met a com- 

 mittee of the Cape University. Thus they would see that the 

 University consulted the professors. 



The Orange River Colonv had now almost decided to become a 

 contributing colonv, and, if their negotiations were successful, would 

 be represented on the Council. It seemed to him that the other 

 Colonies should do the same. For a paltry sum of something like 

 ;^20o per annum, a Colonv could become a contributing Colony, and 

 have three representatives on the Council. He would suggest that 

 the policy pursued by the Orange River Colonv should be adopted by 

 the other Colonies. Thev admitted, of course, that the present 

 system was not satisfactory, but they must not too hastily assume 



